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Why doesn't Shulchan Aruch include the laws of destroying fruit trees?
Pesach/Passover
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)
Best answer contest: Second quarter of 5779
To celebrate Mi Yodeya's tenth birthday, let's divide and conquer the entire…Anonymous glosses in the Shulchan AruchWhy do we make a blessing on the blossoming of fruit trees (birkat hailanot)?Why is the Shulchan Aruch definitive?Why is there such fervor to say the blessing on blossoming fruit trees?Who authored the topic - division headings in the Shulchan Aruch?Why isn't maakeh in the Tur?5th part of the shulchan aruchWhat is the Shulchan Aruch Ha'Arizal?Consistent philosophy in the Shulchan AruchLearning to translate the Shulchan Aruch
Despite clear halachos that apply nowadays and codification in Rambam's Mishneh Torah, Rif, Rosh and Semag, and discussion by a host of other commentaries, as far as I (and the Taz, YD 116:6) can tell, the Tur and Shulchan Aruch do not discuss the laws of destroying trees/Bal Tashchis anywhere. Why is this? (Sources, please!)
halacha shulchan-aruch trees tur
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Despite clear halachos that apply nowadays and codification in Rambam's Mishneh Torah, Rif, Rosh and Semag, and discussion by a host of other commentaries, as far as I (and the Taz, YD 116:6) can tell, the Tur and Shulchan Aruch do not discuss the laws of destroying trees/Bal Tashchis anywhere. Why is this? (Sources, please!)
halacha shulchan-aruch trees tur
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It's not the only thing missing
– Double AA♦
Apr 1 at 20:23
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@DoubleAA certainly true, but I would ask questions on other cases that were discussed in earlier codes as well...
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Despite clear halachos that apply nowadays and codification in Rambam's Mishneh Torah, Rif, Rosh and Semag, and discussion by a host of other commentaries, as far as I (and the Taz, YD 116:6) can tell, the Tur and Shulchan Aruch do not discuss the laws of destroying trees/Bal Tashchis anywhere. Why is this? (Sources, please!)
halacha shulchan-aruch trees tur
Despite clear halachos that apply nowadays and codification in Rambam's Mishneh Torah, Rif, Rosh and Semag, and discussion by a host of other commentaries, as far as I (and the Taz, YD 116:6) can tell, the Tur and Shulchan Aruch do not discuss the laws of destroying trees/Bal Tashchis anywhere. Why is this? (Sources, please!)
halacha shulchan-aruch trees tur
halacha shulchan-aruch trees tur
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It's not the only thing missing
– Double AA♦
Apr 1 at 20:23
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@DoubleAA certainly true, but I would ask questions on other cases that were discussed in earlier codes as well...
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 1 at 20:48
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2
It's not the only thing missing
– Double AA♦
Apr 1 at 20:23
2
@DoubleAA certainly true, but I would ask questions on other cases that were discussed in earlier codes as well...
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 1 at 20:48
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2
It's not the only thing missing
– Double AA♦
Apr 1 at 20:23
It's not the only thing missing
– Double AA♦
Apr 1 at 20:23
2
2
@DoubleAA certainly true, but I would ask questions on other cases that were discussed in earlier codes as well...
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 1 at 20:48
@DoubleAA certainly true, but I would ask questions on other cases that were discussed in earlier codes as well...
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 1 at 20:48
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R. Jacob Reischer addresses this in a responsum:
Shu"t Shevut Yaakov 1:159
גם על הטור אין תימא כל כך דאף דלאו בפירוש אתמר מכללא אתמר כיון דאיסור לקצוץ אילנות הוא לאו דוקא אלא ה"ה כל המאבד דרך השחתה עובר בלא תשחית כלשון הרמב"ם ואיסורא דבל תשחית מוזכר כמה פעמים בטור וכמבואר בי"ד הל' אבילות סי' שמ"ט וסי' ש"ן ע"ש והיתרא דמותר לקוץ במקום דמזיק לאחריני מבואר כמה פעמים בטור ח"מ סי' קנ"ה יע"ש כל זה נ"ל ברור
There is also not such a question on the Tur, because even if it is not said explicitly it is said implicitly – since the prohibition of cutting trees is not specific, rather anyone who destroys in a destructive manner violates bal tashchit, as expressed by Rambam. And the prohibition of bal tashchit is mentioned many times in the Tur, as is clarified in Y.D. Hilchot Aveilut 349 and 350 see there. And the exemption that it is permissible to cut in a place where it harms others is clarified many times in the Tur, in C.M. 155 see there. All this seems clear to me.
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Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
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R. Jacob Reischer addresses this in a responsum:
Shu"t Shevut Yaakov 1:159
גם על הטור אין תימא כל כך דאף דלאו בפירוש אתמר מכללא אתמר כיון דאיסור לקצוץ אילנות הוא לאו דוקא אלא ה"ה כל המאבד דרך השחתה עובר בלא תשחית כלשון הרמב"ם ואיסורא דבל תשחית מוזכר כמה פעמים בטור וכמבואר בי"ד הל' אבילות סי' שמ"ט וסי' ש"ן ע"ש והיתרא דמותר לקוץ במקום דמזיק לאחריני מבואר כמה פעמים בטור ח"מ סי' קנ"ה יע"ש כל זה נ"ל ברור
There is also not such a question on the Tur, because even if it is not said explicitly it is said implicitly – since the prohibition of cutting trees is not specific, rather anyone who destroys in a destructive manner violates bal tashchit, as expressed by Rambam. And the prohibition of bal tashchit is mentioned many times in the Tur, as is clarified in Y.D. Hilchot Aveilut 349 and 350 see there. And the exemption that it is permissible to cut in a place where it harms others is clarified many times in the Tur, in C.M. 155 see there. All this seems clear to me.
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Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 2 at 0:42
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R. Jacob Reischer addresses this in a responsum:
Shu"t Shevut Yaakov 1:159
גם על הטור אין תימא כל כך דאף דלאו בפירוש אתמר מכללא אתמר כיון דאיסור לקצוץ אילנות הוא לאו דוקא אלא ה"ה כל המאבד דרך השחתה עובר בלא תשחית כלשון הרמב"ם ואיסורא דבל תשחית מוזכר כמה פעמים בטור וכמבואר בי"ד הל' אבילות סי' שמ"ט וסי' ש"ן ע"ש והיתרא דמותר לקוץ במקום דמזיק לאחריני מבואר כמה פעמים בטור ח"מ סי' קנ"ה יע"ש כל זה נ"ל ברור
There is also not such a question on the Tur, because even if it is not said explicitly it is said implicitly – since the prohibition of cutting trees is not specific, rather anyone who destroys in a destructive manner violates bal tashchit, as expressed by Rambam. And the prohibition of bal tashchit is mentioned many times in the Tur, as is clarified in Y.D. Hilchot Aveilut 349 and 350 see there. And the exemption that it is permissible to cut in a place where it harms others is clarified many times in the Tur, in C.M. 155 see there. All this seems clear to me.
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Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 2 at 0:42
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R. Jacob Reischer addresses this in a responsum:
Shu"t Shevut Yaakov 1:159
גם על הטור אין תימא כל כך דאף דלאו בפירוש אתמר מכללא אתמר כיון דאיסור לקצוץ אילנות הוא לאו דוקא אלא ה"ה כל המאבד דרך השחתה עובר בלא תשחית כלשון הרמב"ם ואיסורא דבל תשחית מוזכר כמה פעמים בטור וכמבואר בי"ד הל' אבילות סי' שמ"ט וסי' ש"ן ע"ש והיתרא דמותר לקוץ במקום דמזיק לאחריני מבואר כמה פעמים בטור ח"מ סי' קנ"ה יע"ש כל זה נ"ל ברור
There is also not such a question on the Tur, because even if it is not said explicitly it is said implicitly – since the prohibition of cutting trees is not specific, rather anyone who destroys in a destructive manner violates bal tashchit, as expressed by Rambam. And the prohibition of bal tashchit is mentioned many times in the Tur, as is clarified in Y.D. Hilchot Aveilut 349 and 350 see there. And the exemption that it is permissible to cut in a place where it harms others is clarified many times in the Tur, in C.M. 155 see there. All this seems clear to me.
R. Jacob Reischer addresses this in a responsum:
Shu"t Shevut Yaakov 1:159
גם על הטור אין תימא כל כך דאף דלאו בפירוש אתמר מכללא אתמר כיון דאיסור לקצוץ אילנות הוא לאו דוקא אלא ה"ה כל המאבד דרך השחתה עובר בלא תשחית כלשון הרמב"ם ואיסורא דבל תשחית מוזכר כמה פעמים בטור וכמבואר בי"ד הל' אבילות סי' שמ"ט וסי' ש"ן ע"ש והיתרא דמותר לקוץ במקום דמזיק לאחריני מבואר כמה פעמים בטור ח"מ סי' קנ"ה יע"ש כל זה נ"ל ברור
There is also not such a question on the Tur, because even if it is not said explicitly it is said implicitly – since the prohibition of cutting trees is not specific, rather anyone who destroys in a destructive manner violates bal tashchit, as expressed by Rambam. And the prohibition of bal tashchit is mentioned many times in the Tur, as is clarified in Y.D. Hilchot Aveilut 349 and 350 see there. And the exemption that it is permissible to cut in a place where it harms others is clarified many times in the Tur, in C.M. 155 see there. All this seems clear to me.
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Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
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Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 2 at 0:42
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1
Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 2 at 0:42
Thanks, nice find, but the answer isn't very compelling. There are a significant enough number of halachos associated with this that would lead us to expect psak.
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 2 at 0:42
add a comment |
2
It's not the only thing missing
– Double AA♦
Apr 1 at 20:23
2
@DoubleAA certainly true, but I would ask questions on other cases that were discussed in earlier codes as well...
– רבות מחשבות
Apr 1 at 20:48