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How can I transform (pre-process) pure count data for PCA analysis?


Preprocessing in Data mining?What are some method for pre-processing data in OCR?Analyzing time series associationanalysing stability of a measurement over timeIs pre-processing always neccessary?Are annotated audio datasets augmented with mutated versions the way image datasets are?Lowercase texts before tokenizing as pre-processing step for alignmentRight Regression Model to usedata pre-processing before image classificationAudio files and their corresponding spectrograms for image classification process













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If 12 covariates of data are all count data (looks like a Poisson dist with the highest peak at 0), what are reasonable pre-processing methods that might make PCA more effective?










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    Welcome to SE.DataScience! The "do" and "don't" heavily depend on what you mean by "more effective"? If it is not clear, I suggest going without any pre-processing until goals, and consequently flaws become more clear.
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    Well, I'm extracting my loadings from the PCA model to use elsewhere as a kind of weight. But given that the results of PCA differ greatly depending on how one standardizes or preprocesses their data beforehand, I'm just trying to prevent high counts from totally skewing my data. I've tried just removing obvious outliers (and a huge mass of rows with all 0s) but the data is still heavily leaning toward a poisson which is making my score plots really wacky and concerning. My overall goal is to maximize the spread of my variation.
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If 12 covariates of data are all count data (looks like a Poisson dist with the highest peak at 0), what are reasonable pre-processing methods that might make PCA more effective?










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    $begingroup$
    Welcome to SE.DataScience! The "do" and "don't" heavily depend on what you mean by "more effective"? If it is not clear, I suggest going without any pre-processing until goals, and consequently flaws become more clear.
    $endgroup$
    – Esmailian
    Apr 9 at 19:05










  • $begingroup$
    Well, I'm extracting my loadings from the PCA model to use elsewhere as a kind of weight. But given that the results of PCA differ greatly depending on how one standardizes or preprocesses their data beforehand, I'm just trying to prevent high counts from totally skewing my data. I've tried just removing obvious outliers (and a huge mass of rows with all 0s) but the data is still heavily leaning toward a poisson which is making my score plots really wacky and concerning. My overall goal is to maximize the spread of my variation.
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If 12 covariates of data are all count data (looks like a Poisson dist with the highest peak at 0), what are reasonable pre-processing methods that might make PCA more effective?










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    Welcome to SE.DataScience! The "do" and "don't" heavily depend on what you mean by "more effective"? If it is not clear, I suggest going without any pre-processing until goals, and consequently flaws become more clear.
    $endgroup$
    – Esmailian
    Apr 9 at 19:05










  • $begingroup$
    Well, I'm extracting my loadings from the PCA model to use elsewhere as a kind of weight. But given that the results of PCA differ greatly depending on how one standardizes or preprocesses their data beforehand, I'm just trying to prevent high counts from totally skewing my data. I've tried just removing obvious outliers (and a huge mass of rows with all 0s) but the data is still heavily leaning toward a poisson which is making my score plots really wacky and concerning. My overall goal is to maximize the spread of my variation.
    $endgroup$
    – ag_ojo
    Apr 9 at 20:49













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    $begingroup$
    Welcome to SE.DataScience! The "do" and "don't" heavily depend on what you mean by "more effective"? If it is not clear, I suggest going without any pre-processing until goals, and consequently flaws become more clear.
    $endgroup$
    – Esmailian
    Apr 9 at 19:05










  • $begingroup$
    Well, I'm extracting my loadings from the PCA model to use elsewhere as a kind of weight. But given that the results of PCA differ greatly depending on how one standardizes or preprocesses their data beforehand, I'm just trying to prevent high counts from totally skewing my data. I've tried just removing obvious outliers (and a huge mass of rows with all 0s) but the data is still heavily leaning toward a poisson which is making my score plots really wacky and concerning. My overall goal is to maximize the spread of my variation.
    $endgroup$
    – ag_ojo
    Apr 9 at 20:49








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$begingroup$
Welcome to SE.DataScience! The "do" and "don't" heavily depend on what you mean by "more effective"? If it is not clear, I suggest going without any pre-processing until goals, and consequently flaws become more clear.
$endgroup$
– Esmailian
Apr 9 at 19:05




$begingroup$
Welcome to SE.DataScience! The "do" and "don't" heavily depend on what you mean by "more effective"? If it is not clear, I suggest going without any pre-processing until goals, and consequently flaws become more clear.
$endgroup$
– Esmailian
Apr 9 at 19:05












$begingroup$
Well, I'm extracting my loadings from the PCA model to use elsewhere as a kind of weight. But given that the results of PCA differ greatly depending on how one standardizes or preprocesses their data beforehand, I'm just trying to prevent high counts from totally skewing my data. I've tried just removing obvious outliers (and a huge mass of rows with all 0s) but the data is still heavily leaning toward a poisson which is making my score plots really wacky and concerning. My overall goal is to maximize the spread of my variation.
$endgroup$
– ag_ojo
Apr 9 at 20:49





$begingroup$
Well, I'm extracting my loadings from the PCA model to use elsewhere as a kind of weight. But given that the results of PCA differ greatly depending on how one standardizes or preprocesses their data beforehand, I'm just trying to prevent high counts from totally skewing my data. I've tried just removing obvious outliers (and a huge mass of rows with all 0s) but the data is still heavily leaning toward a poisson which is making my score plots really wacky and concerning. My overall goal is to maximize the spread of my variation.
$endgroup$
– ag_ojo
Apr 9 at 20:49











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