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Spam email “via” my domain, but SPF record exists
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I just got an email from some random person's name "via" info@mydomain.com, although info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite.
We have an up-to-date SPF record added from Google, and I'm not quite sure what or how another person is able to send an email via my domain.
Here are some references from the message source, without giving any specific information to my domain or the receipients:
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:41:44 -0500
Subject: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
From: 'Random Person' via Info <info@mydomain.com>
<snipped>
Message-ID: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822@mail.yahoo.com>
Thread-Topic: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
Thread-Index: AWY0NTc5UrmPA22gl2edULFwYvLC7TIwMTU5
References: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="B_3637013229_1574776269"
All of our users have 2FA enabled, although I don't think that's relevant here. This is clearly a spoofed emailed as info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain (just verified it).
Any ideas how this may have happened and how to prevent it?
Also, this message doesn't seem to contain any valuable information other than it was potentially leveraging Yahoo to send email on "behalf" of my domain, which I'm not quite sure how that worked.
spoofing spf
|
show 5 more comments
I just got an email from some random person's name "via" info@mydomain.com, although info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite.
We have an up-to-date SPF record added from Google, and I'm not quite sure what or how another person is able to send an email via my domain.
Here are some references from the message source, without giving any specific information to my domain or the receipients:
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:41:44 -0500
Subject: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
From: 'Random Person' via Info <info@mydomain.com>
<snipped>
Message-ID: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822@mail.yahoo.com>
Thread-Topic: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
Thread-Index: AWY0NTc5UrmPA22gl2edULFwYvLC7TIwMTU5
References: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="B_3637013229_1574776269"
All of our users have 2FA enabled, although I don't think that's relevant here. This is clearly a spoofed emailed as info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain (just verified it).
Any ideas how this may have happened and how to prevent it?
Also, this message doesn't seem to contain any valuable information other than it was potentially leveraging Yahoo to send email on "behalf" of my domain, which I'm not quite sure how that worked.
spoofing spf
9
You snipped out every single piece of the header that would help to figure this out. What did the SPF part of the header say? What were all the "from" addresses?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:44
2
Actually, and this surprised me too, this is all of the email content except for the "To" recipients. Everything underneath "boundary=" is the body of the email which contains the long paragraphs of text. It doesn't make sense to me either and I've personally investigated message headers for other resources. This got me a little stumped.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
You seem to contradict yourself: "info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite" and "info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain". Can you explain?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
No images of text please. What you originally had was perfect.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:53
1
@Kevin Nope, no messages show up in the google groups interface. It only shows up in the G Suite@mydomain.com
inbox. I remember trying to find a way to disable messages from posting there (like a forum) awhile ago too, so perhaps that may be why.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 17:50
|
show 5 more comments
I just got an email from some random person's name "via" info@mydomain.com, although info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite.
We have an up-to-date SPF record added from Google, and I'm not quite sure what or how another person is able to send an email via my domain.
Here are some references from the message source, without giving any specific information to my domain or the receipients:
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:41:44 -0500
Subject: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
From: 'Random Person' via Info <info@mydomain.com>
<snipped>
Message-ID: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822@mail.yahoo.com>
Thread-Topic: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
Thread-Index: AWY0NTc5UrmPA22gl2edULFwYvLC7TIwMTU5
References: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="B_3637013229_1574776269"
All of our users have 2FA enabled, although I don't think that's relevant here. This is clearly a spoofed emailed as info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain (just verified it).
Any ideas how this may have happened and how to prevent it?
Also, this message doesn't seem to contain any valuable information other than it was potentially leveraging Yahoo to send email on "behalf" of my domain, which I'm not quite sure how that worked.
spoofing spf
I just got an email from some random person's name "via" info@mydomain.com, although info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite.
We have an up-to-date SPF record added from Google, and I'm not quite sure what or how another person is able to send an email via my domain.
Here are some references from the message source, without giving any specific information to my domain or the receipients:
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:41:44 -0500
Subject: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
From: 'Random Person' via Info <info@mydomain.com>
<snipped>
Message-ID: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822@mail.yahoo.com>
Thread-Topic: Mass Shootings orchestrated to pass gun control for the Federal
Reserve Shareholders planned U.S. Holocaust- How can your industry help?
Thread-Index: AWY0NTc5UrmPA22gl2edULFwYvLC7TIwMTU5
References: <186271992.14957742.1554180104822.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="B_3637013229_1574776269"
All of our users have 2FA enabled, although I don't think that's relevant here. This is clearly a spoofed emailed as info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain (just verified it).
Any ideas how this may have happened and how to prevent it?
Also, this message doesn't seem to contain any valuable information other than it was potentially leveraging Yahoo to send email on "behalf" of my domain, which I'm not quite sure how that worked.
spoofing spf
spoofing spf
edited Apr 2 at 7:00
LewlSauce
asked Apr 2 at 6:38
LewlSauceLewlSauce
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9
You snipped out every single piece of the header that would help to figure this out. What did the SPF part of the header say? What were all the "from" addresses?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:44
2
Actually, and this surprised me too, this is all of the email content except for the "To" recipients. Everything underneath "boundary=" is the body of the email which contains the long paragraphs of text. It doesn't make sense to me either and I've personally investigated message headers for other resources. This got me a little stumped.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
You seem to contradict yourself: "info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite" and "info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain". Can you explain?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
No images of text please. What you originally had was perfect.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:53
1
@Kevin Nope, no messages show up in the google groups interface. It only shows up in the G Suite@mydomain.com
inbox. I remember trying to find a way to disable messages from posting there (like a forum) awhile ago too, so perhaps that may be why.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 17:50
|
show 5 more comments
9
You snipped out every single piece of the header that would help to figure this out. What did the SPF part of the header say? What were all the "from" addresses?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:44
2
Actually, and this surprised me too, this is all of the email content except for the "To" recipients. Everything underneath "boundary=" is the body of the email which contains the long paragraphs of text. It doesn't make sense to me either and I've personally investigated message headers for other resources. This got me a little stumped.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
You seem to contradict yourself: "info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite" and "info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain". Can you explain?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
No images of text please. What you originally had was perfect.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:53
1
@Kevin Nope, no messages show up in the google groups interface. It only shows up in the G Suite@mydomain.com
inbox. I remember trying to find a way to disable messages from posting there (like a forum) awhile ago too, so perhaps that may be why.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 17:50
9
9
You snipped out every single piece of the header that would help to figure this out. What did the SPF part of the header say? What were all the "from" addresses?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:44
You snipped out every single piece of the header that would help to figure this out. What did the SPF part of the header say? What were all the "from" addresses?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:44
2
2
Actually, and this surprised me too, this is all of the email content except for the "To" recipients. Everything underneath "boundary=" is the body of the email which contains the long paragraphs of text. It doesn't make sense to me either and I've personally investigated message headers for other resources. This got me a little stumped.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:45
Actually, and this surprised me too, this is all of the email content except for the "To" recipients. Everything underneath "boundary=" is the body of the email which contains the long paragraphs of text. It doesn't make sense to me either and I've personally investigated message headers for other resources. This got me a little stumped.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
1
You seem to contradict yourself: "info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite" and "info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain". Can you explain?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:45
You seem to contradict yourself: "info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite" and "info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain". Can you explain?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:45
1
1
No images of text please. What you originally had was perfect.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:53
No images of text please. What you originally had was perfect.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:53
1
1
@Kevin Nope, no messages show up in the google groups interface. It only shows up in the G Suite
@mydomain.com
inbox. I remember trying to find a way to disable messages from posting there (like a forum) awhile ago too, so perhaps that may be why.– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 17:50
@Kevin Nope, no messages show up in the google groups interface. It only shows up in the G Suite
@mydomain.com
inbox. I remember trying to find a way to disable messages from posting there (like a forum) awhile ago too, so perhaps that may be why.– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 17:50
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Having an SPF record in your DNS records helps the recipient know which email server is legtimiate for your domain. The recipient looks up the sending domain for the valid server IPs and then decides what to do with the email.
If the sending IP is on the list, then the email is likely OK.
If the sending IP is not on the list, then it should be treated suspiciously.
This checking logic requires that the receiving email server is configured to check for SPF records. If you are not checking for SPF records, then the entire SPF checking process is not done.
If your email headers do not include the SPF fields, then your email server is not set up to check for SPF and it is not protecting your company in this way.
You need to look up your email service documentation to figure out how to turn on SPF checking.
Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
2
Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
1
@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
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Just having a SPF record does not mean that nobody is able to use your email address as the claimed recipient for spoofed messages.
First, SPF only cares about the SMTP envelope and not about the From
field in the mail header. It is no problem to send a mail where both are different. There are no information in your question of what the SMTP envelope was (usually shown as Return-Path
field in the mail header) but it is actually common that both are different when spoofing mails. To care about the From
you would additionally need to setup DMARC.
And even if both SPF and DMARC are setup the recipient of the mail would actually need to check this. While many check SPF most don't check DMARC.
For more information see also Why set up DMARC for SPF if it's already set up for DKIM?.
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
add a comment |
Actually the SPF record only tells which server(s) legitimate mails using your domain may come from - and we're talking envelope information (SMTP/RFC2821) here, not the From line inside the mails (RFC2822).
Inside your mail program you'll normally only see the mail content (RFC2822), so a mail using your domain in the From line may actually have been sent using a different envelope sender and you'll only be able to see that if you look at the headers where a line like 'X-Apparently-From' would reveal the sender used to deliver the mail.
Also, if one of the servers specified in your SPF is compromised, mails using your domain can be sent through it quite legitimately.
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
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Having an SPF record in your DNS records helps the recipient know which email server is legtimiate for your domain. The recipient looks up the sending domain for the valid server IPs and then decides what to do with the email.
If the sending IP is on the list, then the email is likely OK.
If the sending IP is not on the list, then it should be treated suspiciously.
This checking logic requires that the receiving email server is configured to check for SPF records. If you are not checking for SPF records, then the entire SPF checking process is not done.
If your email headers do not include the SPF fields, then your email server is not set up to check for SPF and it is not protecting your company in this way.
You need to look up your email service documentation to figure out how to turn on SPF checking.
Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
2
Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
1
@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
|
show 3 more comments
Having an SPF record in your DNS records helps the recipient know which email server is legtimiate for your domain. The recipient looks up the sending domain for the valid server IPs and then decides what to do with the email.
If the sending IP is on the list, then the email is likely OK.
If the sending IP is not on the list, then it should be treated suspiciously.
This checking logic requires that the receiving email server is configured to check for SPF records. If you are not checking for SPF records, then the entire SPF checking process is not done.
If your email headers do not include the SPF fields, then your email server is not set up to check for SPF and it is not protecting your company in this way.
You need to look up your email service documentation to figure out how to turn on SPF checking.
Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
2
Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
1
@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
|
show 3 more comments
Having an SPF record in your DNS records helps the recipient know which email server is legtimiate for your domain. The recipient looks up the sending domain for the valid server IPs and then decides what to do with the email.
If the sending IP is on the list, then the email is likely OK.
If the sending IP is not on the list, then it should be treated suspiciously.
This checking logic requires that the receiving email server is configured to check for SPF records. If you are not checking for SPF records, then the entire SPF checking process is not done.
If your email headers do not include the SPF fields, then your email server is not set up to check for SPF and it is not protecting your company in this way.
You need to look up your email service documentation to figure out how to turn on SPF checking.
Having an SPF record in your DNS records helps the recipient know which email server is legtimiate for your domain. The recipient looks up the sending domain for the valid server IPs and then decides what to do with the email.
If the sending IP is on the list, then the email is likely OK.
If the sending IP is not on the list, then it should be treated suspiciously.
This checking logic requires that the receiving email server is configured to check for SPF records. If you are not checking for SPF records, then the entire SPF checking process is not done.
If your email headers do not include the SPF fields, then your email server is not set up to check for SPF and it is not protecting your company in this way.
You need to look up your email service documentation to figure out how to turn on SPF checking.
answered Apr 2 at 6:50
schroeder♦schroeder
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Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
2
Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
1
@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
|
show 3 more comments
Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
2
Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
1
@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Gotcha. Sounds great. I'm using G Suite and will look up additional information. I sincerely appreciate your help. So from what it sounds like, there's technically no way to prevent someone from spoofing your domain; only ways to ensure checks are in place so that recipients can validate whether or not it's spam (aka SPF and DMARC) records. Is that correct?
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:54
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
Don't think of it as "spam" but as an illegitimate sender. SPF records list what you define as a legitimate sender. Recipient email servers perform a "lookup" when it receives an email to see if the sending IP is a legitimate sender for your domain (that's why the list is in DNS).
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:56
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
SPF, DMARC, DKIM protect you from more than just spam.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:57
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Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
Anyone can spoof the "From" address. And there are/were lots of valid reason for this. SPF/DMARC prevents abuse of this feature.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 7:08
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@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
@schroeder from which I take it that you don't regard RFC-compliant mailing lists as a valid use of header-From "spoofing"?
– MadHatter
Apr 2 at 19:01
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Just having a SPF record does not mean that nobody is able to use your email address as the claimed recipient for spoofed messages.
First, SPF only cares about the SMTP envelope and not about the From
field in the mail header. It is no problem to send a mail where both are different. There are no information in your question of what the SMTP envelope was (usually shown as Return-Path
field in the mail header) but it is actually common that both are different when spoofing mails. To care about the From
you would additionally need to setup DMARC.
And even if both SPF and DMARC are setup the recipient of the mail would actually need to check this. While many check SPF most don't check DMARC.
For more information see also Why set up DMARC for SPF if it's already set up for DKIM?.
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
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Just having a SPF record does not mean that nobody is able to use your email address as the claimed recipient for spoofed messages.
First, SPF only cares about the SMTP envelope and not about the From
field in the mail header. It is no problem to send a mail where both are different. There are no information in your question of what the SMTP envelope was (usually shown as Return-Path
field in the mail header) but it is actually common that both are different when spoofing mails. To care about the From
you would additionally need to setup DMARC.
And even if both SPF and DMARC are setup the recipient of the mail would actually need to check this. While many check SPF most don't check DMARC.
For more information see also Why set up DMARC for SPF if it's already set up for DKIM?.
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
add a comment |
Just having a SPF record does not mean that nobody is able to use your email address as the claimed recipient for spoofed messages.
First, SPF only cares about the SMTP envelope and not about the From
field in the mail header. It is no problem to send a mail where both are different. There are no information in your question of what the SMTP envelope was (usually shown as Return-Path
field in the mail header) but it is actually common that both are different when spoofing mails. To care about the From
you would additionally need to setup DMARC.
And even if both SPF and DMARC are setup the recipient of the mail would actually need to check this. While many check SPF most don't check DMARC.
For more information see also Why set up DMARC for SPF if it's already set up for DKIM?.
Just having a SPF record does not mean that nobody is able to use your email address as the claimed recipient for spoofed messages.
First, SPF only cares about the SMTP envelope and not about the From
field in the mail header. It is no problem to send a mail where both are different. There are no information in your question of what the SMTP envelope was (usually shown as Return-Path
field in the mail header) but it is actually common that both are different when spoofing mails. To care about the From
you would additionally need to setup DMARC.
And even if both SPF and DMARC are setup the recipient of the mail would actually need to check this. While many check SPF most don't check DMARC.
For more information see also Why set up DMARC for SPF if it's already set up for DKIM?.
answered Apr 2 at 6:52
Steffen UllrichSteffen Ullrich
121k16209277
121k16209277
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
add a comment |
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
The OP is using G suite which checks SPF records. This answer sounds like far more likely to be correct than the accepted answer.
– Calimo
Apr 2 at 9:49
add a comment |
Actually the SPF record only tells which server(s) legitimate mails using your domain may come from - and we're talking envelope information (SMTP/RFC2821) here, not the From line inside the mails (RFC2822).
Inside your mail program you'll normally only see the mail content (RFC2822), so a mail using your domain in the From line may actually have been sent using a different envelope sender and you'll only be able to see that if you look at the headers where a line like 'X-Apparently-From' would reveal the sender used to deliver the mail.
Also, if one of the servers specified in your SPF is compromised, mails using your domain can be sent through it quite legitimately.
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
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Actually the SPF record only tells which server(s) legitimate mails using your domain may come from - and we're talking envelope information (SMTP/RFC2821) here, not the From line inside the mails (RFC2822).
Inside your mail program you'll normally only see the mail content (RFC2822), so a mail using your domain in the From line may actually have been sent using a different envelope sender and you'll only be able to see that if you look at the headers where a line like 'X-Apparently-From' would reveal the sender used to deliver the mail.
Also, if one of the servers specified in your SPF is compromised, mails using your domain can be sent through it quite legitimately.
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
add a comment |
Actually the SPF record only tells which server(s) legitimate mails using your domain may come from - and we're talking envelope information (SMTP/RFC2821) here, not the From line inside the mails (RFC2822).
Inside your mail program you'll normally only see the mail content (RFC2822), so a mail using your domain in the From line may actually have been sent using a different envelope sender and you'll only be able to see that if you look at the headers where a line like 'X-Apparently-From' would reveal the sender used to deliver the mail.
Also, if one of the servers specified in your SPF is compromised, mails using your domain can be sent through it quite legitimately.
Actually the SPF record only tells which server(s) legitimate mails using your domain may come from - and we're talking envelope information (SMTP/RFC2821) here, not the From line inside the mails (RFC2822).
Inside your mail program you'll normally only see the mail content (RFC2822), so a mail using your domain in the From line may actually have been sent using a different envelope sender and you'll only be able to see that if you look at the headers where a line like 'X-Apparently-From' would reveal the sender used to deliver the mail.
Also, if one of the servers specified in your SPF is compromised, mails using your domain can be sent through it quite legitimately.
answered Apr 2 at 8:39
P. GoetterupP. Goetterup
1211
1211
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
add a comment |
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
Thanks. Based on the email headers, it looks like the email was sent from Yahoo, which makes no sense to me.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 13:35
add a comment |
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You snipped out every single piece of the header that would help to figure this out. What did the SPF part of the header say? What were all the "from" addresses?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:44
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Actually, and this surprised me too, this is all of the email content except for the "To" recipients. Everything underneath "boundary=" is the body of the email which contains the long paragraphs of text. It doesn't make sense to me either and I've personally investigated message headers for other resources. This got me a little stumped.
– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 6:45
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You seem to contradict yourself: "info@mydomain.com is just a distribution group within G Suite" and "info@mydomain.com is not a registered account within the domain". Can you explain?
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:45
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No images of text please. What you originally had was perfect.
– schroeder♦
Apr 2 at 6:53
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@Kevin Nope, no messages show up in the google groups interface. It only shows up in the G Suite
@mydomain.com
inbox. I remember trying to find a way to disable messages from posting there (like a forum) awhile ago too, so perhaps that may be why.– LewlSauce
Apr 2 at 17:50