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Know when to turn notes upside-down(eighth notes, sixteen notes, etc.)

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Suppose I have four of eighth notes(4/4 as time signature), all of them at different pitches, one being very high. An example is show below:

How would I know if I need to turn that upside down(downward stem) or not? Is there a method that applies to sixteenth notes, thirty-second notes, etc.?

theory sheet-music engraving

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  By “turn upside down” do you mean write it with downward stems? If so, if you use software it should do it automatically.
  
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  @ToddWilcox: Yeah, I know but is there some technique when not using software? I also mean downward stems.
  
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  I'm not sure what difference the duration of the note makes. Do you know when to draw stem-up or stem-down for quarter-notes?
  
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  @DavidBowling I know it for quarter notes but not the faster ones.
  
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  I think it's worth noting that not everyone has always solved this problem in the exact same way. Sometimes in printed music you see a beam with some of the stems going down and some going up.
  
  – David K
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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3

1

Suppose I have four of eighth notes(4/4 as time signature), all of them at different pitches, one being very high. An example is show below:

How would I know if I need to turn that upside down(downward stem) or not? Is there a method that applies to sixteenth notes, thirty-second notes, etc.?

theory sheet-music engraving

share|improve this question

edited 33 mins ago

Richard

43.3k6100186

asked 16 hours ago

XilpexXilpex

415214

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  By “turn upside down” do you mean write it with downward stems? If so, if you use software it should do it automatically.
  
  – Todd Wilcox
  16 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @ToddWilcox: Yeah, I know but is there some technique when not using software? I also mean downward stems.
  
  – Xilpex
  16 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I'm not sure what difference the duration of the note makes. Do you know when to draw stem-up or stem-down for quarter-notes?
  
  – David Bowling
  16 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DavidBowling I know it for quarter notes but not the faster ones.
  
  – Xilpex
  16 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think it's worth noting that not everyone has always solved this problem in the exact same way. Sometimes in printed music you see a beam with some of the stems going down and some going up.
  
  – David K
  10 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 4 more comments

Suppose I have four of eighth notes(4/4 as time signature), all of them at different pitches, one being very high. An example is show below:

How would I know if I need to turn that upside down(downward stem) or not? Is there a method that applies to sixteenth notes, thirty-second notes, etc.?

theory sheet-music engraving

share|improve this question

edited 33 mins ago

Richard

43.3k6100186

asked 16 hours ago

XilpexXilpex

415214

share|improve this question

edited 33 mins ago

Richard

43.3k6100186

asked 16 hours ago

XilpexXilpex

415214

share|improve this question

edited 33 mins ago

Richard

43.3k6100186

asked 16 hours ago

XilpexXilpex

415214

edited 33 mins ago

Richard

43.3k6100186

edited 33 mins ago

Richard

43.3k6100186

asked 16 hours ago

XilpexXilpex

415214

asked 16 hours ago

XilpexXilpex

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Notes below the center stave have stems pointing up, and notes above the center stave have stems pointing down. It does not matter whether the notes are half, quarter, eighth, sixteenth, etc.; it only matters that the notes have stems.

For beamed groupings, if the number of notes above the center stave is equal to the number below for that grouping, choose the stem direction based on the note head furthest from the center stave. If the number of note heads above the stave is greater than the number below, use the rule for notes above the center stave. Similarly, if the number of note heads below the center stave is greater than the number above, use the rule for notes below the center stave.

When in doubt, use downward-pointing stems. As always, use your best judgement when something doesn't look quite right to you or if the context suggests one choice over another.

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  yep, nothing is more annoying than playing a run of 16ths and some publisher flipped the stem on one or two notes in the middle of the run.
  
  – Carl Witthoft
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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The general stemming rule (for individual notes) is: from third space upward, use downward pointing stems; from the second space downward, use upward pointing stems. On the third line, one can go either way. However, one may wish to violate the rules a bit to make stemming match a melodic contour.

Multiple notes on the same stem follow the majority of the chord notes; in this case, the third line goes down.

With things like contrapuntal pieces or hymns (in 4-part harmony) generally stem according to voices; high voices have upward pointing stems and lower voices have downward pointing stems.

In all cases, readability is paramount.

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Notes below the center stave have stems pointing up, and notes above the center stave have stems pointing down. It does not matter whether the notes are half, quarter, eighth, sixteenth, etc.; it only matters that the notes have stems.

For beamed groupings, if the number of notes above the center stave is equal to the number below for that grouping, choose the stem direction based on the note head furthest from the center stave. If the number of note heads above the stave is greater than the number below, use the rule for notes above the center stave. Similarly, if the number of note heads below the center stave is greater than the number above, use the rule for notes below the center stave.

When in doubt, use downward-pointing stems. As always, use your best judgement when something doesn't look quite right to you or if the context suggests one choice over another.

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

David BowlingDavid Bowling

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  yep, nothing is more annoying than playing a run of 16ths and some publisher flipped the stem on one or two notes in the middle of the run.
  
  – Carl Witthoft
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

10

Notes below the center stave have stems pointing up, and notes above the center stave have stems pointing down. It does not matter whether the notes are half, quarter, eighth, sixteenth, etc.; it only matters that the notes have stems.

For beamed groupings, if the number of notes above the center stave is equal to the number below for that grouping, choose the stem direction based on the note head furthest from the center stave. If the number of note heads above the stave is greater than the number below, use the rule for notes above the center stave. Similarly, if the number of note heads below the center stave is greater than the number above, use the rule for notes below the center stave.

When in doubt, use downward-pointing stems. As always, use your best judgement when something doesn't look quite right to you or if the context suggests one choice over another.

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

David BowlingDavid Bowling

4,83121338

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  yep, nothing is more annoying than playing a run of 16ths and some publisher flipped the stem on one or two notes in the middle of the run.
  
  – Carl Witthoft
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Notes below the center stave have stems pointing up, and notes above the center stave have stems pointing down. It does not matter whether the notes are half, quarter, eighth, sixteenth, etc.; it only matters that the notes have stems.

For beamed groupings, if the number of notes above the center stave is equal to the number below for that grouping, choose the stem direction based on the note head furthest from the center stave. If the number of note heads above the stave is greater than the number below, use the rule for notes above the center stave. Similarly, if the number of note heads below the center stave is greater than the number above, use the rule for notes below the center stave.

When in doubt, use downward-pointing stems. As always, use your best judgement when something doesn't look quite right to you or if the context suggests one choice over another.

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

David BowlingDavid Bowling

4,83121338

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answered 15 hours ago

David BowlingDavid Bowling

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answered 15 hours ago

David BowlingDavid Bowling

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answered 15 hours ago

David BowlingDavid Bowling

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The general stemming rule (for individual notes) is: from third space upward, use downward pointing stems; from the second space downward, use upward pointing stems. On the third line, one can go either way. However, one may wish to violate the rules a bit to make stemming match a melodic contour.

Multiple notes on the same stem follow the majority of the chord notes; in this case, the third line goes down.

With things like contrapuntal pieces or hymns (in 4-part harmony) generally stem according to voices; high voices have upward pointing stems and lower voices have downward pointing stems.

In all cases, readability is paramount.

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

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8

The general stemming rule (for individual notes) is: from third space upward, use downward pointing stems; from the second space downward, use upward pointing stems. On the third line, one can go either way. However, one may wish to violate the rules a bit to make stemming match a melodic contour.

Multiple notes on the same stem follow the majority of the chord notes; in this case, the third line goes down.

With things like contrapuntal pieces or hymns (in 4-part harmony) generally stem according to voices; high voices have upward pointing stems and lower voices have downward pointing stems.

In all cases, readability is paramount.

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

ttwttw

8,558930

add a comment | 

The general stemming rule (for individual notes) is: from third space upward, use downward pointing stems; from the second space downward, use upward pointing stems. On the third line, one can go either way. However, one may wish to violate the rules a bit to make stemming match a melodic contour.

Multiple notes on the same stem follow the majority of the chord notes; in this case, the third line goes down.

With things like contrapuntal pieces or hymns (in 4-part harmony) generally stem according to voices; high voices have upward pointing stems and lower voices have downward pointing stems.

In all cases, readability is paramount.

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

ttwttw

8,558930

share|improve this answer

answered 15 hours ago

ttwttw

8,558930

answered 15 hours ago

ttwttw

8,558930

answered 15 hours ago

ttwttw

8,558930