Lucky Feat: How can “more than one creature spend a luck point to influence the outcome of a roll”? Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How to make sense of having one's passive Perception better than the active one? (e.g. when one takes the Observant feat)How many luck points does it cost to get a better attack roll with Lucky?Grappled by more than one creature?Do reroll and dice-adding abilities work on critical hits and critical failures?When exactly is the outcome of a roll determined?Can Lucky be used on an attack roll if the roll is a 'Nat 1'?Can you use Lucky (feat) followed by Portent to replace a roll that's already been made?When using the Lucky feat to reroll an attack against me, do I add any modifiers to the reroll?Can you reroll an attack using the Lucky feat if you roll a natural 1?When a player character with the Lucky Feat is attacked, what information is given to the player before deciding to use the feat?

How is simplicity better than precision and clarity in prose?

Was credit for the black hole image misattributed?

Estimated State payment too big --> money back; + 2018 Tax Reform

Cauchy Sequence Characterized only By Directly Neighbouring Sequence Members

When is phishing education going too far?

Unable to start mainnet node docker container

Writing Thesis: Copying from published papers

How to say that you spent the night with someone, you were only sleeping and nothing else?

Estimate capacitor parameters

What would be Julian Assange's expected punishment, on the current English criminal law?

Who can trigger ship-wide alerts in Star Trek?

Can smartphones with the same camera sensor have different image quality?

Does a C shift expression have unsigned type? Why would Splint warn about a right-shift?

How do you clear the ApexPages.getMessages() collection in a test?

Do working physicists consider Newtonian mechanics to be "falsified"?

What LEGO pieces have "real-world" functionality?

What are the performance impacts of 'functional' Rust?

How to market an anarchic city as a tourism spot to people living in civilized areas?

How should I respond to a player wanting to catch a sword between their hands?

I'm having difficulty getting my players to do stuff in a sandbox campaign

The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1397BC53640DB551

Single author papers against my advisor's will?

Is it possible to ask for a hotel room without minibar/extra services?

If I can make up priors, why can't I make up posteriors?



Lucky Feat: How can “more than one creature spend a luck point to influence the outcome of a roll”?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How to make sense of having one's passive Perception better than the active one? (e.g. when one takes the Observant feat)How many luck points does it cost to get a better attack roll with Lucky?Grappled by more than one creature?Do reroll and dice-adding abilities work on critical hits and critical failures?When exactly is the outcome of a roll determined?Can Lucky be used on an attack roll if the roll is a 'Nat 1'?Can you use Lucky (feat) followed by Portent to replace a roll that's already been made?When using the Lucky feat to reroll an attack against me, do I add any modifiers to the reroll?Can you reroll an attack using the Lucky feat if you roll a natural 1?When a player character with the Lucky Feat is attacked, what information is given to the player before deciding to use the feat?



.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;








9












$begingroup$


Lucky (PHB, p. 167) is a feat that only targets either you or something that's attacking you. How would there be more than one creature that can manipulate the outcome of the roll?



Is this only referring to if you try to alter an attacker's roll, but they also have Lucky, and they try to change their own roll?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$


















    9












    $begingroup$


    Lucky (PHB, p. 167) is a feat that only targets either you or something that's attacking you. How would there be more than one creature that can manipulate the outcome of the roll?



    Is this only referring to if you try to alter an attacker's roll, but they also have Lucky, and they try to change their own roll?










    share|improve this question











    $endgroup$














      9












      9








      9





      $begingroup$


      Lucky (PHB, p. 167) is a feat that only targets either you or something that's attacking you. How would there be more than one creature that can manipulate the outcome of the roll?



      Is this only referring to if you try to alter an attacker's roll, but they also have Lucky, and they try to change their own roll?










      share|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      Lucky (PHB, p. 167) is a feat that only targets either you or something that's attacking you. How would there be more than one creature that can manipulate the outcome of the roll?



      Is this only referring to if you try to alter an attacker's roll, but they also have Lucky, and they try to change their own roll?







      dnd-5e feats






      share|improve this question















      share|improve this question













      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question








      edited Mar 31 at 19:57









      V2Blast

      27k594164




      27k594164










      asked Mar 31 at 14:35









      guessguess

      42919




      42919




















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          13












          $begingroup$

          Yes, it's only for a Lucky attacker and a Lucky target.



          Lucky can benefit one's attack roll, ability check, or saving throw or an incoming attack roll against oneself. The only way a roll could be affected by Lucky from multiple sources is if it's an attack roll, because that's the only sort of roll there that can be manipulated on both ends (source and target).



          If an attacker with the Lucky feat attacks you, they are able to benefit on their own roll yet you're able to benefit against that same roll. This is the only situation that the special canceling rule applies to.



          It is very unlikely the canceling rule will see use at the table since generally only PCs have feats and PCs don't usually attack each other, but the canceling rule is there to handle edge cases. Here are some situations the rule would cover:



          • Two PCs engage in player-versus-player combat.

          • A PC attacks an ally PC who is currently under a mind-control effect that allows a save to end the effect when the target is damaged.

          • An NPC enemy designed with character features attacks a PC.

          • A PC traitor becomes an NPC enemy in the middle of an encounter.

          • A PC applies Lucky to a spell attack against a spectator and misses, and the spectator reflects the spell back at a different PC with the Lucky feat (the spectator's Spell Reflection feature states that the attack is rerolled, so it's the same attack roll that originally benefited from Lucky; the second PC couldn't use Lucky to avoid the reflection).

          There are certainly other edge cases, and the rules for the Lucky feat account for the ambiguity and possible shenanigans by including a fix just in case.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$




















            2












            $begingroup$

            You can always target yourself or anyone else that makes an attack roll against you.



            Exactly as it says. You can be "lucky" in two ways:



            • Re-rolling one of your own attacks, ability checks or saving throws and choosing the most favourable

            • When an enemy rolls an attack roll against you, you can force a re-roll and choose the most favourable (the lower roll, or course)

            However, there is an additional clause to account for the unlikely situation when you target another creature attacking you and they also have the lucky feat (or, at least, some way of gaining "luck points"). In this case they can spend one of their points to cancel out your own luck point.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$













              Your Answer








              StackExchange.ready(function()
              var channelOptions =
              tags: "".split(" "),
              id: "122"
              ;
              initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

              StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
              // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
              if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
              StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
              createEditor();
              );

              else
              createEditor();

              );

              function createEditor()
              StackExchange.prepareEditor(
              heartbeatType: 'answer',
              autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
              convertImagesToLinks: false,
              noModals: true,
              showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
              reputationToPostImages: null,
              bindNavPrevention: true,
              postfix: "",
              imageUploader:
              brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
              contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
              allowUrls: true
              ,
              noCode: true, onDemand: true,
              discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
              ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
              );



              );













              draft saved

              draft discarded


















              StackExchange.ready(
              function ()
              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f144217%2flucky-feat-how-can-more-than-one-creature-spend-a-luck-point-to-influence-the%23new-answer', 'question_page');

              );

              Post as a guest















              Required, but never shown

























              2 Answers
              2






              active

              oldest

              votes








              2 Answers
              2






              active

              oldest

              votes









              active

              oldest

              votes






              active

              oldest

              votes









              13












              $begingroup$

              Yes, it's only for a Lucky attacker and a Lucky target.



              Lucky can benefit one's attack roll, ability check, or saving throw or an incoming attack roll against oneself. The only way a roll could be affected by Lucky from multiple sources is if it's an attack roll, because that's the only sort of roll there that can be manipulated on both ends (source and target).



              If an attacker with the Lucky feat attacks you, they are able to benefit on their own roll yet you're able to benefit against that same roll. This is the only situation that the special canceling rule applies to.



              It is very unlikely the canceling rule will see use at the table since generally only PCs have feats and PCs don't usually attack each other, but the canceling rule is there to handle edge cases. Here are some situations the rule would cover:



              • Two PCs engage in player-versus-player combat.

              • A PC attacks an ally PC who is currently under a mind-control effect that allows a save to end the effect when the target is damaged.

              • An NPC enemy designed with character features attacks a PC.

              • A PC traitor becomes an NPC enemy in the middle of an encounter.

              • A PC applies Lucky to a spell attack against a spectator and misses, and the spectator reflects the spell back at a different PC with the Lucky feat (the spectator's Spell Reflection feature states that the attack is rerolled, so it's the same attack roll that originally benefited from Lucky; the second PC couldn't use Lucky to avoid the reflection).

              There are certainly other edge cases, and the rules for the Lucky feat account for the ambiguity and possible shenanigans by including a fix just in case.






              share|improve this answer











              $endgroup$

















                13












                $begingroup$

                Yes, it's only for a Lucky attacker and a Lucky target.



                Lucky can benefit one's attack roll, ability check, or saving throw or an incoming attack roll against oneself. The only way a roll could be affected by Lucky from multiple sources is if it's an attack roll, because that's the only sort of roll there that can be manipulated on both ends (source and target).



                If an attacker with the Lucky feat attacks you, they are able to benefit on their own roll yet you're able to benefit against that same roll. This is the only situation that the special canceling rule applies to.



                It is very unlikely the canceling rule will see use at the table since generally only PCs have feats and PCs don't usually attack each other, but the canceling rule is there to handle edge cases. Here are some situations the rule would cover:



                • Two PCs engage in player-versus-player combat.

                • A PC attacks an ally PC who is currently under a mind-control effect that allows a save to end the effect when the target is damaged.

                • An NPC enemy designed with character features attacks a PC.

                • A PC traitor becomes an NPC enemy in the middle of an encounter.

                • A PC applies Lucky to a spell attack against a spectator and misses, and the spectator reflects the spell back at a different PC with the Lucky feat (the spectator's Spell Reflection feature states that the attack is rerolled, so it's the same attack roll that originally benefited from Lucky; the second PC couldn't use Lucky to avoid the reflection).

                There are certainly other edge cases, and the rules for the Lucky feat account for the ambiguity and possible shenanigans by including a fix just in case.






                share|improve this answer











                $endgroup$















                  13












                  13








                  13





                  $begingroup$

                  Yes, it's only for a Lucky attacker and a Lucky target.



                  Lucky can benefit one's attack roll, ability check, or saving throw or an incoming attack roll against oneself. The only way a roll could be affected by Lucky from multiple sources is if it's an attack roll, because that's the only sort of roll there that can be manipulated on both ends (source and target).



                  If an attacker with the Lucky feat attacks you, they are able to benefit on their own roll yet you're able to benefit against that same roll. This is the only situation that the special canceling rule applies to.



                  It is very unlikely the canceling rule will see use at the table since generally only PCs have feats and PCs don't usually attack each other, but the canceling rule is there to handle edge cases. Here are some situations the rule would cover:



                  • Two PCs engage in player-versus-player combat.

                  • A PC attacks an ally PC who is currently under a mind-control effect that allows a save to end the effect when the target is damaged.

                  • An NPC enemy designed with character features attacks a PC.

                  • A PC traitor becomes an NPC enemy in the middle of an encounter.

                  • A PC applies Lucky to a spell attack against a spectator and misses, and the spectator reflects the spell back at a different PC with the Lucky feat (the spectator's Spell Reflection feature states that the attack is rerolled, so it's the same attack roll that originally benefited from Lucky; the second PC couldn't use Lucky to avoid the reflection).

                  There are certainly other edge cases, and the rules for the Lucky feat account for the ambiguity and possible shenanigans by including a fix just in case.






                  share|improve this answer











                  $endgroup$



                  Yes, it's only for a Lucky attacker and a Lucky target.



                  Lucky can benefit one's attack roll, ability check, or saving throw or an incoming attack roll against oneself. The only way a roll could be affected by Lucky from multiple sources is if it's an attack roll, because that's the only sort of roll there that can be manipulated on both ends (source and target).



                  If an attacker with the Lucky feat attacks you, they are able to benefit on their own roll yet you're able to benefit against that same roll. This is the only situation that the special canceling rule applies to.



                  It is very unlikely the canceling rule will see use at the table since generally only PCs have feats and PCs don't usually attack each other, but the canceling rule is there to handle edge cases. Here are some situations the rule would cover:



                  • Two PCs engage in player-versus-player combat.

                  • A PC attacks an ally PC who is currently under a mind-control effect that allows a save to end the effect when the target is damaged.

                  • An NPC enemy designed with character features attacks a PC.

                  • A PC traitor becomes an NPC enemy in the middle of an encounter.

                  • A PC applies Lucky to a spell attack against a spectator and misses, and the spectator reflects the spell back at a different PC with the Lucky feat (the spectator's Spell Reflection feature states that the attack is rerolled, so it's the same attack roll that originally benefited from Lucky; the second PC couldn't use Lucky to avoid the reflection).

                  There are certainly other edge cases, and the rules for the Lucky feat account for the ambiguity and possible shenanigans by including a fix just in case.







                  share|improve this answer














                  share|improve this answer



                  share|improve this answer








                  edited Apr 1 at 17:40

























                  answered Mar 31 at 14:51









                  BloodcinderBloodcinder

                  24.2k390145




                  24.2k390145























                      2












                      $begingroup$

                      You can always target yourself or anyone else that makes an attack roll against you.



                      Exactly as it says. You can be "lucky" in two ways:



                      • Re-rolling one of your own attacks, ability checks or saving throws and choosing the most favourable

                      • When an enemy rolls an attack roll against you, you can force a re-roll and choose the most favourable (the lower roll, or course)

                      However, there is an additional clause to account for the unlikely situation when you target another creature attacking you and they also have the lucky feat (or, at least, some way of gaining "luck points"). In this case they can spend one of their points to cancel out your own luck point.






                      share|improve this answer









                      $endgroup$

















                        2












                        $begingroup$

                        You can always target yourself or anyone else that makes an attack roll against you.



                        Exactly as it says. You can be "lucky" in two ways:



                        • Re-rolling one of your own attacks, ability checks or saving throws and choosing the most favourable

                        • When an enemy rolls an attack roll against you, you can force a re-roll and choose the most favourable (the lower roll, or course)

                        However, there is an additional clause to account for the unlikely situation when you target another creature attacking you and they also have the lucky feat (or, at least, some way of gaining "luck points"). In this case they can spend one of their points to cancel out your own luck point.






                        share|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$















                          2












                          2








                          2





                          $begingroup$

                          You can always target yourself or anyone else that makes an attack roll against you.



                          Exactly as it says. You can be "lucky" in two ways:



                          • Re-rolling one of your own attacks, ability checks or saving throws and choosing the most favourable

                          • When an enemy rolls an attack roll against you, you can force a re-roll and choose the most favourable (the lower roll, or course)

                          However, there is an additional clause to account for the unlikely situation when you target another creature attacking you and they also have the lucky feat (or, at least, some way of gaining "luck points"). In this case they can spend one of their points to cancel out your own luck point.






                          share|improve this answer









                          $endgroup$



                          You can always target yourself or anyone else that makes an attack roll against you.



                          Exactly as it says. You can be "lucky" in two ways:



                          • Re-rolling one of your own attacks, ability checks or saving throws and choosing the most favourable

                          • When an enemy rolls an attack roll against you, you can force a re-roll and choose the most favourable (the lower roll, or course)

                          However, there is an additional clause to account for the unlikely situation when you target another creature attacking you and they also have the lucky feat (or, at least, some way of gaining "luck points"). In this case they can spend one of their points to cancel out your own luck point.







                          share|improve this answer












                          share|improve this answer



                          share|improve this answer










                          answered Mar 31 at 15:23









                          PJRZPJRZ

                          12.6k14059




                          12.6k14059



























                              draft saved

                              draft discarded
















































                              Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!


                              • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                              But avoid


                              • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                              • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

                              Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                              To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                              draft saved


                              draft discarded














                              StackExchange.ready(
                              function ()
                              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f144217%2flucky-feat-how-can-more-than-one-creature-spend-a-luck-point-to-influence-the%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                              );

                              Post as a guest















                              Required, but never shown





















































                              Required, but never shown














                              Required, but never shown












                              Required, but never shown







                              Required, but never shown

































                              Required, but never shown














                              Required, but never shown












                              Required, but never shown







                              Required, but never shown







                              Popular posts from this blog

                              Adding axes to figuresAdding axes labels to LaTeX figuresLaTeX equivalent of ConTeXt buffersRotate a node but not its content: the case of the ellipse decorationHow to define the default vertical distance between nodes?TikZ scaling graphic and adjust node position and keep font sizeNumerical conditional within tikz keys?adding axes to shapesAlign axes across subfiguresAdding figures with a certain orderLine up nested tikz enviroments or how to get rid of themAdding axes labels to LaTeX figures

                              Tähtien Talli Jäsenet | Lähteet | NavigointivalikkoSuomen Hippos – Tähtien Talli

                              Do these cracks on my tires look bad? The Next CEO of Stack OverflowDry rot tire should I replace?Having to replace tiresFishtailed so easily? Bad tires? ABS?Filling the tires with something other than air, to avoid puncture hassles?Used Michelin tires safe to install?Do these tyre cracks necessitate replacement?Rumbling noise: tires or mechanicalIs it possible to fix noisy feathered tires?Are bad winter tires still better than summer tires in winter?Torque converter failure - Related to replacing only 2 tires?Why use snow tires on all 4 wheels on 2-wheel-drive cars?