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I bought a vintage alarm clock and radio. It works perfectly, but it took me a day to discover that along the length of the cord, there is a small nick, which revealed a small bit of copper wire, which doesn't seem frayed at all.



The cord is unpolarized, and plugs into 120V AC without any transformer "box".



Before the nick was discovered, the clock ran perfectly for a day and a half before unplugging.



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I bought a spool of 3M Super 88 electrical tape and thinking of wrapping it up.



Would that be enough, or would it be still unsafe?










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  • ever heard of Apollo 1? frayed wiring is no bueno

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 15:37






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    @NKCampbell The problem with Apollo 1 was not frayed wiring. It was a pure oxygen atmosphere.

    – vidarlo
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  • that too @vidarlo :)

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 17:20






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    It looked fine until I zoomed in. That 'nick' is a gash in a section of mutilated cable with a laceration that you can't even see the extent of in one picture.

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I bought a vintage alarm clock and radio. It works perfectly, but it took me a day to discover that along the length of the cord, there is a small nick, which revealed a small bit of copper wire, which doesn't seem frayed at all.



The cord is unpolarized, and plugs into 120V AC without any transformer "box".



Before the nick was discovered, the clock ran perfectly for a day and a half before unplugging.



enter image description here



I bought a spool of 3M Super 88 electrical tape and thinking of wrapping it up.



Would that be enough, or would it be still unsafe?










share|improve this question






















  • ever heard of Apollo 1? frayed wiring is no bueno

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 15:37






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    @NKCampbell The problem with Apollo 1 was not frayed wiring. It was a pure oxygen atmosphere.

    – vidarlo
    Apr 1 at 16:53











  • that too @vidarlo :)

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 17:20






  • 1





    It looked fine until I zoomed in. That 'nick' is a gash in a section of mutilated cable with a laceration that you can't even see the extent of in one picture.

    – Mazura
    Apr 2 at 4:13













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I bought a vintage alarm clock and radio. It works perfectly, but it took me a day to discover that along the length of the cord, there is a small nick, which revealed a small bit of copper wire, which doesn't seem frayed at all.



The cord is unpolarized, and plugs into 120V AC without any transformer "box".



Before the nick was discovered, the clock ran perfectly for a day and a half before unplugging.



enter image description here



I bought a spool of 3M Super 88 electrical tape and thinking of wrapping it up.



Would that be enough, or would it be still unsafe?










share|improve this question














I bought a vintage alarm clock and radio. It works perfectly, but it took me a day to discover that along the length of the cord, there is a small nick, which revealed a small bit of copper wire, which doesn't seem frayed at all.



The cord is unpolarized, and plugs into 120V AC without any transformer "box".



Before the nick was discovered, the clock ran perfectly for a day and a half before unplugging.



enter image description here



I bought a spool of 3M Super 88 electrical tape and thinking of wrapping it up.



Would that be enough, or would it be still unsafe?







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  • ever heard of Apollo 1? frayed wiring is no bueno

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 15:37






  • 11





    @NKCampbell The problem with Apollo 1 was not frayed wiring. It was a pure oxygen atmosphere.

    – vidarlo
    Apr 1 at 16:53











  • that too @vidarlo :)

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 17:20






  • 1





    It looked fine until I zoomed in. That 'nick' is a gash in a section of mutilated cable with a laceration that you can't even see the extent of in one picture.

    – Mazura
    Apr 2 at 4:13

















  • ever heard of Apollo 1? frayed wiring is no bueno

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 15:37






  • 11





    @NKCampbell The problem with Apollo 1 was not frayed wiring. It was a pure oxygen atmosphere.

    – vidarlo
    Apr 1 at 16:53











  • that too @vidarlo :)

    – NKCampbell
    Apr 1 at 17:20






  • 1





    It looked fine until I zoomed in. That 'nick' is a gash in a section of mutilated cable with a laceration that you can't even see the extent of in one picture.

    – Mazura
    Apr 2 at 4:13
















ever heard of Apollo 1? frayed wiring is no bueno

– NKCampbell
Apr 1 at 15:37





ever heard of Apollo 1? frayed wiring is no bueno

– NKCampbell
Apr 1 at 15:37




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@NKCampbell The problem with Apollo 1 was not frayed wiring. It was a pure oxygen atmosphere.

– vidarlo
Apr 1 at 16:53





@NKCampbell The problem with Apollo 1 was not frayed wiring. It was a pure oxygen atmosphere.

– vidarlo
Apr 1 at 16:53













that too @vidarlo :)

– NKCampbell
Apr 1 at 17:20





that too @vidarlo :)

– NKCampbell
Apr 1 at 17:20




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It looked fine until I zoomed in. That 'nick' is a gash in a section of mutilated cable with a laceration that you can't even see the extent of in one picture.

– Mazura
Apr 2 at 4:13





It looked fine until I zoomed in. That 'nick' is a gash in a section of mutilated cable with a laceration that you can't even see the extent of in one picture.

– Mazura
Apr 2 at 4:13










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That cable, as is, will tend to "bite people". It also has damage that could increase resistance there causing that spot in the cable to get hot. Continued flexing will worsen the wire damage and the heating.



An electrical-tape repair will work temporarily, but I would not resell it like that.



The right way is take your time and find a gray power cord of very similar style, open up the clock and replace the cable.






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    Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

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    If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

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    It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

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    @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

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    So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

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It depends. The proper procedure would of course be to replace the cord, but from a safety perspective, insulating tape will work. It may be against regulation, and if you have kids or pets around it may be unadvisable.



The main problem is that tape tends to sag and move over time. A better solution than electrical tape would be either zipper tube, which is heat shrink tube that is closed with a zipper, or vulcanizing tape.



Zipper heat shrink tube without glue will provide a lasting insulation. You can even split the conductors, insulate them with a heat shrink tube each to their own, and then an overall shrink tube to keep it together. If you need waterproof (you probably don't), the tubes with thermoglue will provide that.



Same goes for self-vulcanizing tape. It will provide a perfect seal that doesn't sag or slip. You could insulate each conductor individually to ensure that there will be no short circuit.



Either of these are likely to cost as much as, or more, than replacing the cord. Either would be entirely fine from a safety perspective.






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    Insulating tape will make it safe in the short term. In the long term (or if accessible to pets or children) it can come off or be pulled off.



    It is often hard to replace the power cord. Sometimes the case of the appliance is impossible to open. Other times the cable restraint/grommet is moulded onto the appliance end, and no other piece of cable could be secured.



    I'd cut the plug off the other end (if moulded on), slide heat-shrink tubing along to cover the nick, and shrink it into place. Then attach a re-wireable plug. Self-amalgamating tape is another possibility, but in my experience it goes gooey with age. Not necessarily unsafe, but not nice. A third possibility is an in-line cable joiner. Cut the cable at the nick, and join the conductors inside the in-line joiner. Some designs of joiner you could simply put the damaged cable inside the body of the joiner and secure it on both sides of the nick without actually cutting the cable at all.



    Heat-shrink tube is by far the neatest.



    None of this is advising whether these measures are legal under any particular wiring code. Just what I'd regard as making it safe, bearing in mind it's a clock, not, say, a hedge-trimmer that gets carried around and used outside in a wet environment.






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      "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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    Never take chances with electricity. Remove the damaged device from those who might use it. Find the correct gauge cord and replace the entire damaged cord.






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      "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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    What you have there is free access (50% of the time) to the live / hot conductor for a passing finger or other part of your anatomy. If you have an earth leakage device (RCD, might have a different name in the USA which 120V points to being your country) in your mains supply, you'll cause it to trip if you touch it and are grounded... turning off the power to that circuit. It'll hurt. If you don't have an earth leakage device the hurt could be fatal.



    Proper insulating tape will work as a makeshift repair but you shouldn't rely on tape for a long-term repair to exposed wiring - the adhesive may perish, the over-wrap may slide up or down the cable, children might unwrap it to see what was underneath. Replacing the cable is a good option but will involve opening the machine and may need soldering. Shortening the cable is a good option. Cutting the cable at the damage and using a cable joiner is a safe but less good option... it depends where the fault is along the length of the cable.






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      If you're sure the wiring inside the cord isn't damaged, you can probably make a simple repair to the insulation. Zip cord is typically made of a vinyl (poly-vinyl chloride) material and you may be able to find a solvent, like for PVC "plastic" plumbing, that would dissolve the insulation enough to reform it to seal the tear, if there isn't a chunk missing. If there is material missing, perhaps a vinyl repair product would also work.



      Since you made a point of mentioning it was vintage, I think these suggestions will give you the most attractive resolution.



      I've seen chewed cords and this one looks like it had been caught under a piece of furniture or closed in a drawer. The stretching doesn't suggest teeth marks.



      Leaving the cord alone shouldn't affect the operation of your device. Rather, it's a safety issue. Electrical tape would prevent contact with the wiring, but it's not an attractive option. Using a vinyl adhesive or patching product would restore the integrity of the insulation without compromising aesthetics.



      If the wiring is actually damaged, though, replacement or shortening the cord to removed the damaged area is best.






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        Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

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      put some tape around it and move on. The original insulation is just a coating. Tape is just a coating. Because it is tape it isn't any good?



      Someone made a comment about the tape being able to be pulled off. Yes, if someone is "trying" to pull it off. Someone could try to pull of the original insulation also. Wrap it well with tape. Then wrap it again with tape. Put it on the table and enjoy it.






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        That cable, as is, will tend to "bite people". It also has damage that could increase resistance there causing that spot in the cable to get hot. Continued flexing will worsen the wire damage and the heating.



        An electrical-tape repair will work temporarily, but I would not resell it like that.



        The right way is take your time and find a gray power cord of very similar style, open up the clock and replace the cable.






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          Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

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          If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

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          Apr 1 at 11:10






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          It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

          – Peter Cordes
          Apr 2 at 14:07






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          @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

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          Apr 2 at 14:08






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          So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

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        That cable, as is, will tend to "bite people". It also has damage that could increase resistance there causing that spot in the cable to get hot. Continued flexing will worsen the wire damage and the heating.



        An electrical-tape repair will work temporarily, but I would not resell it like that.



        The right way is take your time and find a gray power cord of very similar style, open up the clock and replace the cable.






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          Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

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          Apr 1 at 1:48






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          If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

          – Muzer
          Apr 1 at 11:10






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          It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

          – Peter Cordes
          Apr 2 at 14:07






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          @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

          – Alex Shpilkin
          Apr 2 at 14:08






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          So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

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        That cable, as is, will tend to "bite people". It also has damage that could increase resistance there causing that spot in the cable to get hot. Continued flexing will worsen the wire damage and the heating.



        An electrical-tape repair will work temporarily, but I would not resell it like that.



        The right way is take your time and find a gray power cord of very similar style, open up the clock and replace the cable.






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        That cable, as is, will tend to "bite people". It also has damage that could increase resistance there causing that spot in the cable to get hot. Continued flexing will worsen the wire damage and the heating.



        An electrical-tape repair will work temporarily, but I would not resell it like that.



        The right way is take your time and find a gray power cord of very similar style, open up the clock and replace the cable.







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          Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

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          Apr 1 at 1:48






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          If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

          – Muzer
          Apr 1 at 11:10






        • 4





          It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

          – Peter Cordes
          Apr 2 at 14:07






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          @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

          – Alex Shpilkin
          Apr 2 at 14:08






        • 2





          So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

          – David
          Apr 2 at 17:48













        • 10





          Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

          – immibis
          Apr 1 at 1:48






        • 25





          If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

          – Muzer
          Apr 1 at 11:10






        • 4





          It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

          – Peter Cordes
          Apr 2 at 14:07






        • 2





          @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

          – Alex Shpilkin
          Apr 2 at 14:08






        • 2





          So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

          – David
          Apr 2 at 17:48








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        Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

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        Well, it doesn't have to be very similar, unless you want it to be.

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        If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

        – Muzer
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        If the nick is towards the plug end and you could live with a shorter lead, you could also just cut the cable just before the nick, and put a plug on the cable that remains.

        – Muzer
        Apr 1 at 11:10




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        It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

        – Peter Cordes
        Apr 2 at 14:07





        It's an alarm clock / radio. The current through the cord is negligible, like under 100mA (even with an inefficient power supply, 12 Watts for the clock is probably an over-estimate). The OP says the wire is intact, just showing through the insulation, so at this point the damage won't be increasing resistance. Further damage could, yes. For your own use, with no kids around that could peel off the tape, yes tape is fine for this little damage. If this was a more power-hungry appliance, your concern about resistance would be much more justified.

        – Peter Cordes
        Apr 2 at 14:07




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        @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

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        @Christian The plastic insulation on old cables tends to become brittle and crack on its own, and even new they were much less flexible than modern ones. But your version is more amusing =)

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        So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

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        So here is more detail. @PeterCordes the clock uses 9 watts of power, and I don't really plan on moving it around that much, so it's just going to sit on a desk for most of the time. I am currently at university at the moment and don't have access to hardware such as solder (although I am not confident at soldering, nor any complicated electrical work.) As of now I have applied several turns of electrical tape, and so far nothing bad has happened. Long term, I may replace the plug, since it looks easy and it isn't that far in from the plug. It's 1/4 of the cord length.

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        It depends. The proper procedure would of course be to replace the cord, but from a safety perspective, insulating tape will work. It may be against regulation, and if you have kids or pets around it may be unadvisable.



        The main problem is that tape tends to sag and move over time. A better solution than electrical tape would be either zipper tube, which is heat shrink tube that is closed with a zipper, or vulcanizing tape.



        Zipper heat shrink tube without glue will provide a lasting insulation. You can even split the conductors, insulate them with a heat shrink tube each to their own, and then an overall shrink tube to keep it together. If you need waterproof (you probably don't), the tubes with thermoglue will provide that.



        Same goes for self-vulcanizing tape. It will provide a perfect seal that doesn't sag or slip. You could insulate each conductor individually to ensure that there will be no short circuit.



        Either of these are likely to cost as much as, or more, than replacing the cord. Either would be entirely fine from a safety perspective.






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          It depends. The proper procedure would of course be to replace the cord, but from a safety perspective, insulating tape will work. It may be against regulation, and if you have kids or pets around it may be unadvisable.



          The main problem is that tape tends to sag and move over time. A better solution than electrical tape would be either zipper tube, which is heat shrink tube that is closed with a zipper, or vulcanizing tape.



          Zipper heat shrink tube without glue will provide a lasting insulation. You can even split the conductors, insulate them with a heat shrink tube each to their own, and then an overall shrink tube to keep it together. If you need waterproof (you probably don't), the tubes with thermoglue will provide that.



          Same goes for self-vulcanizing tape. It will provide a perfect seal that doesn't sag or slip. You could insulate each conductor individually to ensure that there will be no short circuit.



          Either of these are likely to cost as much as, or more, than replacing the cord. Either would be entirely fine from a safety perspective.






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            It depends. The proper procedure would of course be to replace the cord, but from a safety perspective, insulating tape will work. It may be against regulation, and if you have kids or pets around it may be unadvisable.



            The main problem is that tape tends to sag and move over time. A better solution than electrical tape would be either zipper tube, which is heat shrink tube that is closed with a zipper, or vulcanizing tape.



            Zipper heat shrink tube without glue will provide a lasting insulation. You can even split the conductors, insulate them with a heat shrink tube each to their own, and then an overall shrink tube to keep it together. If you need waterproof (you probably don't), the tubes with thermoglue will provide that.



            Same goes for self-vulcanizing tape. It will provide a perfect seal that doesn't sag or slip. You could insulate each conductor individually to ensure that there will be no short circuit.



            Either of these are likely to cost as much as, or more, than replacing the cord. Either would be entirely fine from a safety perspective.






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            It depends. The proper procedure would of course be to replace the cord, but from a safety perspective, insulating tape will work. It may be against regulation, and if you have kids or pets around it may be unadvisable.



            The main problem is that tape tends to sag and move over time. A better solution than electrical tape would be either zipper tube, which is heat shrink tube that is closed with a zipper, or vulcanizing tape.



            Zipper heat shrink tube without glue will provide a lasting insulation. You can even split the conductors, insulate them with a heat shrink tube each to their own, and then an overall shrink tube to keep it together. If you need waterproof (you probably don't), the tubes with thermoglue will provide that.



            Same goes for self-vulcanizing tape. It will provide a perfect seal that doesn't sag or slip. You could insulate each conductor individually to ensure that there will be no short circuit.



            Either of these are likely to cost as much as, or more, than replacing the cord. Either would be entirely fine from a safety perspective.







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                Insulating tape will make it safe in the short term. In the long term (or if accessible to pets or children) it can come off or be pulled off.



                It is often hard to replace the power cord. Sometimes the case of the appliance is impossible to open. Other times the cable restraint/grommet is moulded onto the appliance end, and no other piece of cable could be secured.



                I'd cut the plug off the other end (if moulded on), slide heat-shrink tubing along to cover the nick, and shrink it into place. Then attach a re-wireable plug. Self-amalgamating tape is another possibility, but in my experience it goes gooey with age. Not necessarily unsafe, but not nice. A third possibility is an in-line cable joiner. Cut the cable at the nick, and join the conductors inside the in-line joiner. Some designs of joiner you could simply put the damaged cable inside the body of the joiner and secure it on both sides of the nick without actually cutting the cable at all.



                Heat-shrink tube is by far the neatest.



                None of this is advising whether these measures are legal under any particular wiring code. Just what I'd regard as making it safe, bearing in mind it's a clock, not, say, a hedge-trimmer that gets carried around and used outside in a wet environment.






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                  "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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                Insulating tape will make it safe in the short term. In the long term (or if accessible to pets or children) it can come off or be pulled off.



                It is often hard to replace the power cord. Sometimes the case of the appliance is impossible to open. Other times the cable restraint/grommet is moulded onto the appliance end, and no other piece of cable could be secured.



                I'd cut the plug off the other end (if moulded on), slide heat-shrink tubing along to cover the nick, and shrink it into place. Then attach a re-wireable plug. Self-amalgamating tape is another possibility, but in my experience it goes gooey with age. Not necessarily unsafe, but not nice. A third possibility is an in-line cable joiner. Cut the cable at the nick, and join the conductors inside the in-line joiner. Some designs of joiner you could simply put the damaged cable inside the body of the joiner and secure it on both sides of the nick without actually cutting the cable at all.



                Heat-shrink tube is by far the neatest.



                None of this is advising whether these measures are legal under any particular wiring code. Just what I'd regard as making it safe, bearing in mind it's a clock, not, say, a hedge-trimmer that gets carried around and used outside in a wet environment.






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                  "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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                Insulating tape will make it safe in the short term. In the long term (or if accessible to pets or children) it can come off or be pulled off.



                It is often hard to replace the power cord. Sometimes the case of the appliance is impossible to open. Other times the cable restraint/grommet is moulded onto the appliance end, and no other piece of cable could be secured.



                I'd cut the plug off the other end (if moulded on), slide heat-shrink tubing along to cover the nick, and shrink it into place. Then attach a re-wireable plug. Self-amalgamating tape is another possibility, but in my experience it goes gooey with age. Not necessarily unsafe, but not nice. A third possibility is an in-line cable joiner. Cut the cable at the nick, and join the conductors inside the in-line joiner. Some designs of joiner you could simply put the damaged cable inside the body of the joiner and secure it on both sides of the nick without actually cutting the cable at all.



                Heat-shrink tube is by far the neatest.



                None of this is advising whether these measures are legal under any particular wiring code. Just what I'd regard as making it safe, bearing in mind it's a clock, not, say, a hedge-trimmer that gets carried around and used outside in a wet environment.






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                Insulating tape will make it safe in the short term. In the long term (or if accessible to pets or children) it can come off or be pulled off.



                It is often hard to replace the power cord. Sometimes the case of the appliance is impossible to open. Other times the cable restraint/grommet is moulded onto the appliance end, and no other piece of cable could be secured.



                I'd cut the plug off the other end (if moulded on), slide heat-shrink tubing along to cover the nick, and shrink it into place. Then attach a re-wireable plug. Self-amalgamating tape is another possibility, but in my experience it goes gooey with age. Not necessarily unsafe, but not nice. A third possibility is an in-line cable joiner. Cut the cable at the nick, and join the conductors inside the in-line joiner. Some designs of joiner you could simply put the damaged cable inside the body of the joiner and secure it on both sides of the nick without actually cutting the cable at all.



                Heat-shrink tube is by far the neatest.



                None of this is advising whether these measures are legal under any particular wiring code. Just what I'd regard as making it safe, bearing in mind it's a clock, not, say, a hedge-trimmer that gets carried around and used outside in a wet environment.







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                  "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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                  "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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                "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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                "short term" meaning "time to go and fix it properly" and not "a couple of years"

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                Never take chances with electricity. Remove the damaged device from those who might use it. Find the correct gauge cord and replace the entire damaged cord.






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                  "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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                Never take chances with electricity. Remove the damaged device from those who might use it. Find the correct gauge cord and replace the entire damaged cord.






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                  "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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                Never take chances with electricity. Remove the damaged device from those who might use it. Find the correct gauge cord and replace the entire damaged cord.






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                Never take chances with electricity. Remove the damaged device from those who might use it. Find the correct gauge cord and replace the entire damaged cord.







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                  "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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                  "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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                "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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                "Never take chances" doesn't mean that there's no safe repair for nicked insulation!

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                What you have there is free access (50% of the time) to the live / hot conductor for a passing finger or other part of your anatomy. If you have an earth leakage device (RCD, might have a different name in the USA which 120V points to being your country) in your mains supply, you'll cause it to trip if you touch it and are grounded... turning off the power to that circuit. It'll hurt. If you don't have an earth leakage device the hurt could be fatal.



                Proper insulating tape will work as a makeshift repair but you shouldn't rely on tape for a long-term repair to exposed wiring - the adhesive may perish, the over-wrap may slide up or down the cable, children might unwrap it to see what was underneath. Replacing the cable is a good option but will involve opening the machine and may need soldering. Shortening the cable is a good option. Cutting the cable at the damage and using a cable joiner is a safe but less good option... it depends where the fault is along the length of the cable.






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                  What you have there is free access (50% of the time) to the live / hot conductor for a passing finger or other part of your anatomy. If you have an earth leakage device (RCD, might have a different name in the USA which 120V points to being your country) in your mains supply, you'll cause it to trip if you touch it and are grounded... turning off the power to that circuit. It'll hurt. If you don't have an earth leakage device the hurt could be fatal.



                  Proper insulating tape will work as a makeshift repair but you shouldn't rely on tape for a long-term repair to exposed wiring - the adhesive may perish, the over-wrap may slide up or down the cable, children might unwrap it to see what was underneath. Replacing the cable is a good option but will involve opening the machine and may need soldering. Shortening the cable is a good option. Cutting the cable at the damage and using a cable joiner is a safe but less good option... it depends where the fault is along the length of the cable.






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                    What you have there is free access (50% of the time) to the live / hot conductor for a passing finger or other part of your anatomy. If you have an earth leakage device (RCD, might have a different name in the USA which 120V points to being your country) in your mains supply, you'll cause it to trip if you touch it and are grounded... turning off the power to that circuit. It'll hurt. If you don't have an earth leakage device the hurt could be fatal.



                    Proper insulating tape will work as a makeshift repair but you shouldn't rely on tape for a long-term repair to exposed wiring - the adhesive may perish, the over-wrap may slide up or down the cable, children might unwrap it to see what was underneath. Replacing the cable is a good option but will involve opening the machine and may need soldering. Shortening the cable is a good option. Cutting the cable at the damage and using a cable joiner is a safe but less good option... it depends where the fault is along the length of the cable.






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                    What you have there is free access (50% of the time) to the live / hot conductor for a passing finger or other part of your anatomy. If you have an earth leakage device (RCD, might have a different name in the USA which 120V points to being your country) in your mains supply, you'll cause it to trip if you touch it and are grounded... turning off the power to that circuit. It'll hurt. If you don't have an earth leakage device the hurt could be fatal.



                    Proper insulating tape will work as a makeshift repair but you shouldn't rely on tape for a long-term repair to exposed wiring - the adhesive may perish, the over-wrap may slide up or down the cable, children might unwrap it to see what was underneath. Replacing the cable is a good option but will involve opening the machine and may need soldering. Shortening the cable is a good option. Cutting the cable at the damage and using a cable joiner is a safe but less good option... it depends where the fault is along the length of the cable.







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                        If you're sure the wiring inside the cord isn't damaged, you can probably make a simple repair to the insulation. Zip cord is typically made of a vinyl (poly-vinyl chloride) material and you may be able to find a solvent, like for PVC "plastic" plumbing, that would dissolve the insulation enough to reform it to seal the tear, if there isn't a chunk missing. If there is material missing, perhaps a vinyl repair product would also work.



                        Since you made a point of mentioning it was vintage, I think these suggestions will give you the most attractive resolution.



                        I've seen chewed cords and this one looks like it had been caught under a piece of furniture or closed in a drawer. The stretching doesn't suggest teeth marks.



                        Leaving the cord alone shouldn't affect the operation of your device. Rather, it's a safety issue. Electrical tape would prevent contact with the wiring, but it's not an attractive option. Using a vinyl adhesive or patching product would restore the integrity of the insulation without compromising aesthetics.



                        If the wiring is actually damaged, though, replacement or shortening the cord to removed the damaged area is best.






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                          Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

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                        If you're sure the wiring inside the cord isn't damaged, you can probably make a simple repair to the insulation. Zip cord is typically made of a vinyl (poly-vinyl chloride) material and you may be able to find a solvent, like for PVC "plastic" plumbing, that would dissolve the insulation enough to reform it to seal the tear, if there isn't a chunk missing. If there is material missing, perhaps a vinyl repair product would also work.



                        Since you made a point of mentioning it was vintage, I think these suggestions will give you the most attractive resolution.



                        I've seen chewed cords and this one looks like it had been caught under a piece of furniture or closed in a drawer. The stretching doesn't suggest teeth marks.



                        Leaving the cord alone shouldn't affect the operation of your device. Rather, it's a safety issue. Electrical tape would prevent contact with the wiring, but it's not an attractive option. Using a vinyl adhesive or patching product would restore the integrity of the insulation without compromising aesthetics.



                        If the wiring is actually damaged, though, replacement or shortening the cord to removed the damaged area is best.






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                          Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

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                        If you're sure the wiring inside the cord isn't damaged, you can probably make a simple repair to the insulation. Zip cord is typically made of a vinyl (poly-vinyl chloride) material and you may be able to find a solvent, like for PVC "plastic" plumbing, that would dissolve the insulation enough to reform it to seal the tear, if there isn't a chunk missing. If there is material missing, perhaps a vinyl repair product would also work.



                        Since you made a point of mentioning it was vintage, I think these suggestions will give you the most attractive resolution.



                        I've seen chewed cords and this one looks like it had been caught under a piece of furniture or closed in a drawer. The stretching doesn't suggest teeth marks.



                        Leaving the cord alone shouldn't affect the operation of your device. Rather, it's a safety issue. Electrical tape would prevent contact with the wiring, but it's not an attractive option. Using a vinyl adhesive or patching product would restore the integrity of the insulation without compromising aesthetics.



                        If the wiring is actually damaged, though, replacement or shortening the cord to removed the damaged area is best.






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                        If you're sure the wiring inside the cord isn't damaged, you can probably make a simple repair to the insulation. Zip cord is typically made of a vinyl (poly-vinyl chloride) material and you may be able to find a solvent, like for PVC "plastic" plumbing, that would dissolve the insulation enough to reform it to seal the tear, if there isn't a chunk missing. If there is material missing, perhaps a vinyl repair product would also work.



                        Since you made a point of mentioning it was vintage, I think these suggestions will give you the most attractive resolution.



                        I've seen chewed cords and this one looks like it had been caught under a piece of furniture or closed in a drawer. The stretching doesn't suggest teeth marks.



                        Leaving the cord alone shouldn't affect the operation of your device. Rather, it's a safety issue. Electrical tape would prevent contact with the wiring, but it's not an attractive option. Using a vinyl adhesive or patching product would restore the integrity of the insulation without compromising aesthetics.



                        If the wiring is actually damaged, though, replacement or shortening the cord to removed the damaged area is best.







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                          Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

                          – Daniel Griscom
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                        • 1





                          Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

                          – Daniel Griscom
                          Apr 2 at 17:38








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                        Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

                        – Daniel Griscom
                        Apr 2 at 17:38






                        Hello, and welcome to Home Improvement. I reeeeeeeeallly wouldn't recommend using a solvent on cable insulation; you could cause entertaining delayed effects, up to and including house fires.

                        – Daniel Griscom
                        Apr 2 at 17:38












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                        put some tape around it and move on. The original insulation is just a coating. Tape is just a coating. Because it is tape it isn't any good?



                        Someone made a comment about the tape being able to be pulled off. Yes, if someone is "trying" to pull it off. Someone could try to pull of the original insulation also. Wrap it well with tape. Then wrap it again with tape. Put it on the table and enjoy it.






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                          put some tape around it and move on. The original insulation is just a coating. Tape is just a coating. Because it is tape it isn't any good?



                          Someone made a comment about the tape being able to be pulled off. Yes, if someone is "trying" to pull it off. Someone could try to pull of the original insulation also. Wrap it well with tape. Then wrap it again with tape. Put it on the table and enjoy it.






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                            put some tape around it and move on. The original insulation is just a coating. Tape is just a coating. Because it is tape it isn't any good?



                            Someone made a comment about the tape being able to be pulled off. Yes, if someone is "trying" to pull it off. Someone could try to pull of the original insulation also. Wrap it well with tape. Then wrap it again with tape. Put it on the table and enjoy it.






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                            put some tape around it and move on. The original insulation is just a coating. Tape is just a coating. Because it is tape it isn't any good?



                            Someone made a comment about the tape being able to be pulled off. Yes, if someone is "trying" to pull it off. Someone could try to pull of the original insulation also. Wrap it well with tape. Then wrap it again with tape. Put it on the table and enjoy it.







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