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Is it ok to trim down a tube patch?



Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?Why would each patch produce a new leak before resintalling tube?How much can a 700x23 inner tube stretch?inner tube length size questionWhat inner tube size to get for my road bike?Bicycle's inner-tube got puncture right next to the valve, How to patch it there?Will a “700 x 25-32cc” inner tube fit my “700Cx28/38c” / “ETRTO 622x20” rim?A pin punctured my tyre. Should I only replace the inner tube, or patch the outer, rubber tyre?Misshapen inner tube, is this evidence of it being incorrectly fitted?What's the smallest possible tube that will work with my bikes?Which tube will fit a -(700 x 25c) wheel?










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I got a 700x18-23 inner tube that just got punctured. The small round patch on my patch kit is a bit wider than the inner tube itself. Is it ok to cut around the patch so it fits?



An added question: when buying an inner tube, should i buy the smaller 700 x 18-25c, or the 700 x 25-32c for my 25c tires?










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  • Your second question is already answered elsewhere on the site. Short answer is "either's fine"

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    Apr 2 at 19:29















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I got a 700x18-23 inner tube that just got punctured. The small round patch on my patch kit is a bit wider than the inner tube itself. Is it ok to cut around the patch so it fits?



An added question: when buying an inner tube, should i buy the smaller 700 x 18-25c, or the 700 x 25-32c for my 25c tires?










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  • Your second question is already answered elsewhere on the site. Short answer is "either's fine"

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:29













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I got a 700x18-23 inner tube that just got punctured. The small round patch on my patch kit is a bit wider than the inner tube itself. Is it ok to cut around the patch so it fits?



An added question: when buying an inner tube, should i buy the smaller 700 x 18-25c, or the 700 x 25-32c for my 25c tires?










share|improve this question
















I got a 700x18-23 inner tube that just got punctured. The small round patch on my patch kit is a bit wider than the inner tube itself. Is it ok to cut around the patch so it fits?



An added question: when buying an inner tube, should i buy the smaller 700 x 18-25c, or the 700 x 25-32c for my 25c tires?







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  • Your second question is already answered elsewhere on the site. Short answer is "either's fine"

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:29

















  • Your second question is already answered elsewhere on the site. Short answer is "either's fine"

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:29
















Your second question is already answered elsewhere on the site. Short answer is "either's fine"

– Criggie
Apr 2 at 19:29





Your second question is already answered elsewhere on the site. Short answer is "either's fine"

– Criggie
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Don't cut it. The patch is thinner at the edges and cutting leaves a thick sharp edge where it can tear. Roll the tube sideways and you can glue first one and then other edge. There are smaller patches that are made for narrow road tubes.






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    My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

    – Nathan Knutson
    Mar 31 at 22:37











  • Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:33











  • Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:03


















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My experience has been the same as zeus; I've been cutting those bigger patches in half for decades.



However, I have had a couple of these peel up on the thick cut edge, long ago. That led me to taking more time with such patches: making sure that the tube is well abraded and partly inflated, that the glue runs right to the edge, that the edges are firmly pressed into the underlying rubber. With these precautions, I never lose air on a cut patch.



However, if I was stuck doing a roadside repair, I would always choose a whole patch.



(As an aside, why do they include those monster size patches in a bicycle tube repair kit anyway? If a hole was big enough to need a patch that big, you'd never be patching it.)






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  • I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:28


















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You don't need to cut it just because the patch is slightly wider: you can wrap it around the tube. Just before I put the patch on (that is, when the applied glue dried somewhat), I pump up the tube a bit so that it expands roughly to the size it would be inside the tyre. This allows to apply the patch easier, esp. if it's oversized, and also presumably avoids unnecessary stress (or rather, stretch) on the patch at full pressure.



That said, I frequently cut patches. The typical kit contains several long patches which never get used in full: if you have a cut that big, it's better to replace the tube. So I cut them in 3-4 smaller pieces. I never had a problem with the sharp cut-off edge, whether I put it along or across the tube, even on the 700x23 high-pressure road tyres. And I have decent statistics: I estimate roughly 10000 km with at least one patch cut like that.






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  • 10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:39












  • MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

    – Zeus
    Apr 1 at 23:23












  • Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:06











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Don't cut it. The patch is thinner at the edges and cutting leaves a thick sharp edge where it can tear. Roll the tube sideways and you can glue first one and then other edge. There are smaller patches that are made for narrow road tubes.






share|improve this answer


















  • 4





    My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

    – Nathan Knutson
    Mar 31 at 22:37











  • Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:33











  • Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:03















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Don't cut it. The patch is thinner at the edges and cutting leaves a thick sharp edge where it can tear. Roll the tube sideways and you can glue first one and then other edge. There are smaller patches that are made for narrow road tubes.






share|improve this answer


















  • 4





    My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

    – Nathan Knutson
    Mar 31 at 22:37











  • Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:33











  • Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:03













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5








5







Don't cut it. The patch is thinner at the edges and cutting leaves a thick sharp edge where it can tear. Roll the tube sideways and you can glue first one and then other edge. There are smaller patches that are made for narrow road tubes.






share|improve this answer













Don't cut it. The patch is thinner at the edges and cutting leaves a thick sharp edge where it can tear. Roll the tube sideways and you can glue first one and then other edge. There are smaller patches that are made for narrow road tubes.







share|improve this answer












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  • 4





    My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

    – Nathan Knutson
    Mar 31 at 22:37











  • Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:33











  • Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:03












  • 4





    My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

    – Nathan Knutson
    Mar 31 at 22:37











  • Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:33











  • Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:03







4




4





My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

– Nathan Knutson
Mar 31 at 22:37





My advice for a long time has been to just buy a 100-count box of Rema F0s if you're someone that patches, regardless of tire size...

– Nathan Knutson
Mar 31 at 22:37













Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

– Lefty
Apr 1 at 18:33





Thanks. I haven’t found any Rema available so far here, but if i do, i’ll purchase some.

– Lefty
Apr 1 at 18:33













Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

– Lefty
Apr 3 at 18:03





Finally found me some 15mm patches from zefal.

– Lefty
Apr 3 at 18:03











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My experience has been the same as zeus; I've been cutting those bigger patches in half for decades.



However, I have had a couple of these peel up on the thick cut edge, long ago. That led me to taking more time with such patches: making sure that the tube is well abraded and partly inflated, that the glue runs right to the edge, that the edges are firmly pressed into the underlying rubber. With these precautions, I never lose air on a cut patch.



However, if I was stuck doing a roadside repair, I would always choose a whole patch.



(As an aside, why do they include those monster size patches in a bicycle tube repair kit anyway? If a hole was big enough to need a patch that big, you'd never be patching it.)






share|improve this answer























  • I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:28















2














My experience has been the same as zeus; I've been cutting those bigger patches in half for decades.



However, I have had a couple of these peel up on the thick cut edge, long ago. That led me to taking more time with such patches: making sure that the tube is well abraded and partly inflated, that the glue runs right to the edge, that the edges are firmly pressed into the underlying rubber. With these precautions, I never lose air on a cut patch.



However, if I was stuck doing a roadside repair, I would always choose a whole patch.



(As an aside, why do they include those monster size patches in a bicycle tube repair kit anyway? If a hole was big enough to need a patch that big, you'd never be patching it.)






share|improve this answer























  • I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:28













2












2








2







My experience has been the same as zeus; I've been cutting those bigger patches in half for decades.



However, I have had a couple of these peel up on the thick cut edge, long ago. That led me to taking more time with such patches: making sure that the tube is well abraded and partly inflated, that the glue runs right to the edge, that the edges are firmly pressed into the underlying rubber. With these precautions, I never lose air on a cut patch.



However, if I was stuck doing a roadside repair, I would always choose a whole patch.



(As an aside, why do they include those monster size patches in a bicycle tube repair kit anyway? If a hole was big enough to need a patch that big, you'd never be patching it.)






share|improve this answer













My experience has been the same as zeus; I've been cutting those bigger patches in half for decades.



However, I have had a couple of these peel up on the thick cut edge, long ago. That led me to taking more time with such patches: making sure that the tube is well abraded and partly inflated, that the glue runs right to the edge, that the edges are firmly pressed into the underlying rubber. With these precautions, I never lose air on a cut patch.



However, if I was stuck doing a roadside repair, I would always choose a whole patch.



(As an aside, why do they include those monster size patches in a bicycle tube repair kit anyway? If a hole was big enough to need a patch that big, you'd never be patching it.)







share|improve this answer












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  • I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:28

















  • I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

    – Criggie
    Apr 2 at 19:28
















I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

– Criggie
Apr 2 at 19:28





I've used the monster patches a couple times, for Really Big cuts and once for a weird 10 holes in the same area. That one looked like it had been stabbed repeatedly with a compass by a vandal.

– Criggie
Apr 2 at 19:28











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You don't need to cut it just because the patch is slightly wider: you can wrap it around the tube. Just before I put the patch on (that is, when the applied glue dried somewhat), I pump up the tube a bit so that it expands roughly to the size it would be inside the tyre. This allows to apply the patch easier, esp. if it's oversized, and also presumably avoids unnecessary stress (or rather, stretch) on the patch at full pressure.



That said, I frequently cut patches. The typical kit contains several long patches which never get used in full: if you have a cut that big, it's better to replace the tube. So I cut them in 3-4 smaller pieces. I never had a problem with the sharp cut-off edge, whether I put it along or across the tube, even on the 700x23 high-pressure road tyres. And I have decent statistics: I estimate roughly 10000 km with at least one patch cut like that.






share|improve this answer























  • 10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:39












  • MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

    – Zeus
    Apr 1 at 23:23












  • Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:06















1














You don't need to cut it just because the patch is slightly wider: you can wrap it around the tube. Just before I put the patch on (that is, when the applied glue dried somewhat), I pump up the tube a bit so that it expands roughly to the size it would be inside the tyre. This allows to apply the patch easier, esp. if it's oversized, and also presumably avoids unnecessary stress (or rather, stretch) on the patch at full pressure.



That said, I frequently cut patches. The typical kit contains several long patches which never get used in full: if you have a cut that big, it's better to replace the tube. So I cut them in 3-4 smaller pieces. I never had a problem with the sharp cut-off edge, whether I put it along or across the tube, even on the 700x23 high-pressure road tyres. And I have decent statistics: I estimate roughly 10000 km with at least one patch cut like that.






share|improve this answer























  • 10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:39












  • MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

    – Zeus
    Apr 1 at 23:23












  • Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:06













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1








1







You don't need to cut it just because the patch is slightly wider: you can wrap it around the tube. Just before I put the patch on (that is, when the applied glue dried somewhat), I pump up the tube a bit so that it expands roughly to the size it would be inside the tyre. This allows to apply the patch easier, esp. if it's oversized, and also presumably avoids unnecessary stress (or rather, stretch) on the patch at full pressure.



That said, I frequently cut patches. The typical kit contains several long patches which never get used in full: if you have a cut that big, it's better to replace the tube. So I cut them in 3-4 smaller pieces. I never had a problem with the sharp cut-off edge, whether I put it along or across the tube, even on the 700x23 high-pressure road tyres. And I have decent statistics: I estimate roughly 10000 km with at least one patch cut like that.






share|improve this answer













You don't need to cut it just because the patch is slightly wider: you can wrap it around the tube. Just before I put the patch on (that is, when the applied glue dried somewhat), I pump up the tube a bit so that it expands roughly to the size it would be inside the tyre. This allows to apply the patch easier, esp. if it's oversized, and also presumably avoids unnecessary stress (or rather, stretch) on the patch at full pressure.



That said, I frequently cut patches. The typical kit contains several long patches which never get used in full: if you have a cut that big, it's better to replace the tube. So I cut them in 3-4 smaller pieces. I never had a problem with the sharp cut-off edge, whether I put it along or across the tube, even on the 700x23 high-pressure road tyres. And I have decent statistics: I estimate roughly 10000 km with at least one patch cut like that.







share|improve this answer












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answered Apr 1 at 5:49









ZeusZeus

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  • 10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:39












  • MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

    – Zeus
    Apr 1 at 23:23












  • Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:06

















  • 10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

    – Lefty
    Apr 1 at 18:39












  • MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

    – Zeus
    Apr 1 at 23:23












  • Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

    – Lefty
    Apr 3 at 18:06
















10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

– Lefty
Apr 1 at 18:39






10000 km, wow. It’s effective then. I’ll experiment on an old mtb inner tube with a cut patch. As for the rb tube, i’m gonna use it as a spare only, and just roll it up.

– Lefty
Apr 1 at 18:39














MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

– Zeus
Apr 1 at 23:23






MTB (and any such) tubes can be patched with almost anything: off-cuts from an old tube, self-adhesive patches, etc. If done properly, they'll be fine. Road tubes are more demanding: you need self-vulcanising patches. My tactics is typical: get a puncture, put the spare tube which I always have, fix the other one at home and make it the spare. I replace them after perhaps 4 patches. Thus I end up riding with patched tubes most of the time, and most or at least half of the patches happen to be cut manually.

– Zeus
Apr 1 at 23:23














Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

– Lefty
Apr 3 at 18:06





Finally found 15mm patches from zefal. I’d still experiment on my old inner tubes with cut patches, see how it goes. Thanks guys.

– Lefty
Apr 3 at 18:06

















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