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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
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By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 16:54
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
Apr 5 at 17:06
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@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:23
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5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 22:57
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Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
history
asked Apr 5 at 13:52
RuminatorRuminator
38518
Given the technology of the times what would the medium be in which he wrote his text and how bulky would it have been to carry, for example?
history
history
asked Apr 5 at 13:52
RuminatorRuminator
38518
asked Apr 5 at 13:52
RuminatorRuminator
38518
asked Apr 5 at 13:52
RuminatorRuminator
38518
asked Apr 5 at 13:52
RuminatorRuminator
38518
asked Apr 5 at 13:52
RuminatorRuminator
38518
38518
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 16:54
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
Apr 5 at 17:06
2
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:23
1
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 22:57
add a comment |
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 16:54
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
Apr 5 at 17:06
2
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:23
1
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 22:57
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 16:54
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 16:54
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
Apr 5 at 17:06
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
Apr 5 at 17:06
2
2
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:23
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:23
1
1
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 22:57
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 22:57
add a comment |
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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
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To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
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1 Answer
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According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
add a comment |
According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
add a comment |
According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
According to Bava Basra 14a-b, Moses’ scroll was rolled all the way to its beginning, and it only had a single pole. This allowed for it to be two handbreadths wide by six handbreadths tall. In practice, it was stored with a slightly smaller diameter, as they would unwind it slightly and fold some of the parchment on top so that it would fit in the space allotted for it in the Ark (according to the opinion that it was indeed kept in the Ark).
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
answered Apr 5 at 14:45
DonielFDonielF
17.7k12692
17.7k12692
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
add a comment |
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
1
1
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
To be clear, two handbreaths is the approximate diameter of the cylinder. The goal was to have a circumference equal to it's height (so 6/pi handbreaths) so its volume was about 17.2 cubic handbreadths ~ 8dm^3
– Double AA♦
Apr 5 at 14:52
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
@DoubleAA Rashi seems to learn that two was the exact diameter, six the exact height, and six the approximate circumference. That it was able to fit into a two tefach-wide gap was because it wasn’t stored fully rolled.
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:22
add a comment |
By "autograph", do mean "manuscript"?
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 16:54
I meant the version that would have come directly from Moses's hand.
– Ruminator
Apr 5 at 17:06
2
@JoshK Definition 1a here: “an original manuscript or work of art.”
– DonielF
Apr 5 at 21:23
1
5 years of linguistics studies and I never picked up on that. Much obliged, @DonielF
– Josh K
Apr 5 at 22:57