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General question on EDA, correlations, classification, ML


Binary classification model for sparse / biased dataModel that adapts to sample updatesHow does a convolutional ply differ from an ordinary convolutional network?How to improve precision under imbalanced classificationGeneral Machine Learning Workflow QuestionWhat are best practices for collaborative feature engineering?Does it make sense to “reorder” a categorical feature to make it monotonic?What data treatment/transformation should be applied if there are a lot of outliers and features lack normal distribution?How to model & predict user activity/presence time in a websiteGeneral question on the approach to optimise numbers













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I am looking for a general best practices regarding classification and correlations. I created a new predictor feature call it B, based on a certain threshold in a feature A. Now I started to do EDA and I am not sure which feature to include in my EDA, A or B. When I do correlations plots, nothing correlates with feature B, but some features do correlate with feature A. Which one should I take into account then, A or B correlations? Also, how can I make use of those correlations and scatterplots and pairplots anyway and are they important? If I am using random forest or NN, do I even need to bother with all of the pairplots and correlations to extract features from? I have around 150 features and not sure how to approach the problem of which features to use. I haven't found a source saying how to make a proper use of all of this in a real world scenarios. Any help is appreciated.










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      I am looking for a general best practices regarding classification and correlations. I created a new predictor feature call it B, based on a certain threshold in a feature A. Now I started to do EDA and I am not sure which feature to include in my EDA, A or B. When I do correlations plots, nothing correlates with feature B, but some features do correlate with feature A. Which one should I take into account then, A or B correlations? Also, how can I make use of those correlations and scatterplots and pairplots anyway and are they important? If I am using random forest or NN, do I even need to bother with all of the pairplots and correlations to extract features from? I have around 150 features and not sure how to approach the problem of which features to use. I haven't found a source saying how to make a proper use of all of this in a real world scenarios. Any help is appreciated.










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      I am looking for a general best practices regarding classification and correlations. I created a new predictor feature call it B, based on a certain threshold in a feature A. Now I started to do EDA and I am not sure which feature to include in my EDA, A or B. When I do correlations plots, nothing correlates with feature B, but some features do correlate with feature A. Which one should I take into account then, A or B correlations? Also, how can I make use of those correlations and scatterplots and pairplots anyway and are they important? If I am using random forest or NN, do I even need to bother with all of the pairplots and correlations to extract features from? I have around 150 features and not sure how to approach the problem of which features to use. I haven't found a source saying how to make a proper use of all of this in a real world scenarios. Any help is appreciated.







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          If the relation between predictors is nearly 0, it's always better to drop that feature, the caveat here depends on the domain knowledge you have.



          Did you check the correlation between B and the target variable and also A and target variable? if it's negative drop it, If it's significantly high .i.e greater 0.7, use that as your feature.



          Yes, pair plots and scatter plots are really important, but it would be tedious to plot features with 150 variables.






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            I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
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            Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
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          If the relation between predictors is nearly 0, it's always better to drop that feature, the caveat here depends on the domain knowledge you have.



          Did you check the correlation between B and the target variable and also A and target variable? if it's negative drop it, If it's significantly high .i.e greater 0.7, use that as your feature.



          Yes, pair plots and scatter plots are really important, but it would be tedious to plot features with 150 variables.






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            I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
            $endgroup$
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          • $begingroup$
            Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
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          $begingroup$

          If the relation between predictors is nearly 0, it's always better to drop that feature, the caveat here depends on the domain knowledge you have.



          Did you check the correlation between B and the target variable and also A and target variable? if it's negative drop it, If it's significantly high .i.e greater 0.7, use that as your feature.



          Yes, pair plots and scatter plots are really important, but it would be tedious to plot features with 150 variables.






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          • $begingroup$
            I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
            $endgroup$
            – user69194
            Mar 10 at 8:38










          • $begingroup$
            Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
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          If the relation between predictors is nearly 0, it's always better to drop that feature, the caveat here depends on the domain knowledge you have.



          Did you check the correlation between B and the target variable and also A and target variable? if it's negative drop it, If it's significantly high .i.e greater 0.7, use that as your feature.



          Yes, pair plots and scatter plots are really important, but it would be tedious to plot features with 150 variables.






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          If the relation between predictors is nearly 0, it's always better to drop that feature, the caveat here depends on the domain knowledge you have.



          Did you check the correlation between B and the target variable and also A and target variable? if it's negative drop it, If it's significantly high .i.e greater 0.7, use that as your feature.



          Yes, pair plots and scatter plots are really important, but it would be tedious to plot features with 150 variables.







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            I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
            $endgroup$
            – user69194
            Mar 10 at 8:38










          • $begingroup$
            Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
            $endgroup$
            – Sunil
            Mar 10 at 12:54

















          • $begingroup$
            I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
            $endgroup$
            – user69194
            Mar 10 at 8:38










          • $begingroup$
            Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
            $endgroup$
            – Sunil
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          $begingroup$
          I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
          $endgroup$
          – user69194
          Mar 10 at 8:38




          $begingroup$
          I don't have any domain knowledge, I have some random data with features that I don't know much about. How do I use scatterplots and pairplots to determine which features to use? Or what should I be using them for?
          $endgroup$
          – user69194
          Mar 10 at 8:38












          $begingroup$
          Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
          $endgroup$
          – Sunil
          Mar 10 at 12:54





          $begingroup$
          Do a correlation map or heat map to determine which features to use. negatively correlated features can be avoided, but with caution. Pair panels give a lot of information about your data points. You can also do a simple describe on your data and find about the skews.
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