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% symbol leads to superlong (forever?) compilations
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InAbout TikZ and decoration (accent in text)Why does TikZ add zeros?diagram with curved arrows and instructions (probably tikz)TikZ: Cropping the Bounding BoxRotate a node but not its content: the case of the ellipse decorationHow to define the default vertical distance between nodes?Numerical conditional within tikz keys?TikZ/ERD: node (=Entity) label on the insideTikZ: Drawing an arc from an intersection to an intersectionHow to prevent rounded and duplicated tick labels in pgfplots with fixed precision?Drawing rectilinear curves in Tikz, aka an Etch-a-Sketch drawingLine up nested tikz enviroments or how to get rid of themTikz takes forever to compile when imported into main file
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This problem occurs when I am trying to improve my answer in this question.
You can compile this code very well
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
but don't compile this code!
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
I have been waiting for more than 200 seconds
Why? I just want to add a percent symbol (%)!
I think TikZ understood my % as %, but removing the throws many errors.
I even used siunitx, but got the same result.
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
usepackagesiunitx
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by SI100percent] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
So, what's going on?
tikz-pgf
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
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This problem occurs when I am trying to improve my answer in this question.
You can compile this code very well
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
but don't compile this code!
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
I have been waiting for more than 200 seconds
Why? I just want to add a percent symbol (%)!
I think TikZ understood my % as %, but removing the throws many errors.
I even used siunitx, but got the same result.
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
usepackagesiunitx
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by SI100percent] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
So, what's going on?
tikz-pgf
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
1
Very nice your 2nd image: How do I find the compilation time? Do you have any specific software where you can see the build time? My regards.
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:22
@Sebastiano I use VS Code. The LaTeX Workshop extension gives me a link to see the compilation process, which I don't use really often, but it is very useful in strange situations, like this situation.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:24
Is this :-)? marketplace.visualstudio.com/…
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:28
@Sebastiano Yes, that's it.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:28
2
The infinite loop is triggered by any unexpandable control sequence token, even byrelax(except implicit character tokens that raise errors). Bracing the token is the right way to go.
– egreg
Mar 28 at 17:03
|
show 1 more comment
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14
14
This problem occurs when I am trying to improve my answer in this question.
You can compile this code very well
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
but don't compile this code!
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
I have been waiting for more than 200 seconds
Why? I just want to add a percent symbol (%)!
I think TikZ understood my % as %, but removing the throws many errors.
I even used siunitx, but got the same result.
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
usepackagesiunitx
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by SI100percent] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
So, what's going on?
tikz-pgf
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
This problem occurs when I am trying to improve my answer in this question.
You can compile this code very well
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
but don't compile this code!
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
I have been waiting for more than 200 seconds
Why? I just want to add a percent symbol (%)!
I think TikZ understood my % as %, but removing the throws many errors.
I even used siunitx, but got the same result.
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
usepackagesiunitx
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text align=center,text=multiply by SI100percent] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
So, what's going on?
tikz-pgf
tikz-pgf
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
edited Mar 29 at 0:21
Dancrumb
1032
1032
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
asked Mar 28 at 15:46
JouleVJouleV
12.2k22662
12.2k22662
1
Very nice your 2nd image: How do I find the compilation time? Do you have any specific software where you can see the build time? My regards.
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:22
@Sebastiano I use VS Code. The LaTeX Workshop extension gives me a link to see the compilation process, which I don't use really often, but it is very useful in strange situations, like this situation.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:24
Is this :-)? marketplace.visualstudio.com/…
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:28
@Sebastiano Yes, that's it.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:28
2
The infinite loop is triggered by any unexpandable control sequence token, even byrelax(except implicit character tokens that raise errors). Bracing the token is the right way to go.
– egreg
Mar 28 at 17:03
|
show 1 more comment
1
Very nice your 2nd image: How do I find the compilation time? Do you have any specific software where you can see the build time? My regards.
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:22
@Sebastiano I use VS Code. The LaTeX Workshop extension gives me a link to see the compilation process, which I don't use really often, but it is very useful in strange situations, like this situation.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:24
Is this :-)? marketplace.visualstudio.com/…
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:28
@Sebastiano Yes, that's it.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:28
2
The infinite loop is triggered by any unexpandable control sequence token, even byrelax(except implicit character tokens that raise errors). Bracing the token is the right way to go.
– egreg
Mar 28 at 17:03
1
1
Very nice your 2nd image: How do I find the compilation time? Do you have any specific software where you can see the build time? My regards.
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:22
Very nice your 2nd image: How do I find the compilation time? Do you have any specific software where you can see the build time? My regards.
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:22
@Sebastiano I use VS Code. The LaTeX Workshop extension gives me a link to see the compilation process, which I don't use really often, but it is very useful in strange situations, like this situation.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:24
@Sebastiano I use VS Code. The LaTeX Workshop extension gives me a link to see the compilation process, which I don't use really often, but it is very useful in strange situations, like this situation.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:24
Is this :-)? marketplace.visualstudio.com/…
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:28
Is this :-)? marketplace.visualstudio.com/…
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:28
@Sebastiano Yes, that's it.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:28
@Sebastiano Yes, that's it.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:28
2
2
The infinite loop is triggered by any unexpandable control sequence token, even by
relax (except implicit character tokens that raise errors). Bracing the token is the right way to go.– egreg
Mar 28 at 17:03
The infinite loop is triggered by any unexpandable control sequence token, even by
relax (except implicit character tokens that raise errors). Bracing the token is the right way to go.– egreg
Mar 28 at 17:03
|
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You only need to wrap % into ....
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
2
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
1
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
2
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
1
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
|
show 2 more comments
13
You can make this work by changing the % character to not be the comment character anymore using catcode:
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
beginscope
catcode`%=12
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endscope
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
1
Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why%doesn't work?
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
4
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
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You only need to wrap % into ....
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
2
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
1
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
2
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
1
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
|
show 2 more comments
14
You only need to wrap % into ....
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
2
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
1
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
2
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
1
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
|
show 2 more comments
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14
You only need to wrap % into ....
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
You only need to wrap % into ....
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
answered Mar 28 at 16:09
marmotmarmot
116k5150281
116k5150281
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
2
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
1
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
2
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
1
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
|
show 2 more comments
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
2
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
1
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
2
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
1
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
Wow, that's easier (why didn't I try this?). Thumbs up!
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:12
2
2
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
@Skillmon I tried this only after recalling this discussion, which almost drove me crazy,
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:13
1
1
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
@JouleV So sorry. ;-)
– marmot
Mar 28 at 16:17
2
2
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
@marmot Agreed. (Off topic: there are two opposite "exchange"s in your comment - it is quite funny.)
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:58
1
1
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
@JouleV Most likely stackexchange is run by the sociology department of Harvard, who want to explore the mind sets of humans (and ducks, koalas and marmots ;-).
– marmot
Mar 28 at 17:02
|
show 2 more comments
13
You can make this work by changing the % character to not be the comment character anymore using catcode:
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
beginscope
catcode`%=12
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endscope
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
1
Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why%doesn't work?
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
4
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
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You can make this work by changing the % character to not be the comment character anymore using catcode:
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
beginscope
catcode`%=12
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endscope
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
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Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why%doesn't work?
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
4
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
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You can make this work by changing the % character to not be the comment character anymore using catcode:
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
beginscope
catcode`%=12
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endscope
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
You can make this work by changing the % character to not be the comment character anymore using catcode:
documentclass[tikz]standalone
usetikzlibrarybending,decorations.text
begindocument
begintikzpicture
sffamily
node (a) at (-2,0) probability;
node[align=center] (b) at (2,0) percent\change;
beginscope
catcode`%=12
draw[-latex,postaction=decorate,decoration=raise=1ex,text along path,text
align=center,text=multiply by 100%] (a) to[out=60,in=120] (b);
endscope
endtikzpicture
enddocument
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
answered Mar 28 at 16:03
SkillmonSkillmon
24.3k12250
24.3k12250
1
Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why%doesn't work?
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
4
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
add a comment |
1
Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why%doesn't work?
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
4
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
1
1
Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why
% doesn't work?– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
Thanks, it solved the problem. However, could you please add some explanation about why
% doesn't work?– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:07
4
4
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
@JouleV for that I'd have to dig through the internals of TikZ, which isn't something I feel like right now, sorry.
– Skillmon
Mar 28 at 16:10
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Very nice your 2nd image: How do I find the compilation time? Do you have any specific software where you can see the build time? My regards.
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:22
@Sebastiano I use VS Code. The LaTeX Workshop extension gives me a link to see the compilation process, which I don't use really often, but it is very useful in strange situations, like this situation.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:24
Is this :-)? marketplace.visualstudio.com/…
– Sebastiano
Mar 28 at 16:28
@Sebastiano Yes, that's it.
– JouleV
Mar 28 at 16:28
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The infinite loop is triggered by any unexpandable control sequence token, even by
relax(except implicit character tokens that raise errors). Bracing the token is the right way to go.– egreg
Mar 28 at 17:03