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Did Ender ever learn that he killed Stilson and/or Bonzo?
How did Ender kill this character?Why was there no debugging output in the mind game that Ender played?Why didn't Jane tell Ender that her origin was the Fantasy Game when they met?Did Mazer Rackham and Colonel Graff ever speak?About Zeck and EnderWhy does Bean get homesick if he didn't have a home?Where did Ender spend his first month of Earthside leave?Why does Bean think that Ender grew up in Greensboro?At which point in time did Ender start using the video room to study Bugger tactics?Do Peter and Ender forgive each other in Ender's Game?
I have not read all the books, and those I read, I did so long ago. I just can’t find out whether Ender ever knew he killed those two boys. On the one hand, it would play along with his guilt feelings. On the other, it would be symbolically sound that he did not know about these “steps” toward xenocide.
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I have not read all the books, and those I read, I did so long ago. I just can’t find out whether Ender ever knew he killed those two boys. On the one hand, it would play along with his guilt feelings. On the other, it would be symbolically sound that he did not know about these “steps” toward xenocide.
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I have not read all the books, and those I read, I did so long ago. I just can’t find out whether Ender ever knew he killed those two boys. On the one hand, it would play along with his guilt feelings. On the other, it would be symbolically sound that he did not know about these “steps” toward xenocide.
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I have not read all the books, and those I read, I did so long ago. I just can’t find out whether Ender ever knew he killed those two boys. On the one hand, it would play along with his guilt feelings. On the other, it would be symbolically sound that he did not know about these “steps” toward xenocide.
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Yes. He saw videos of the fights and the aftermath.
And there was the matter of the court martial on the crimes of Colonel Graff. Admiral Chamrajnagar tried to keep Ender from watching it, but failed -- Ender had been awarded the rank of admiral, too, and this was one of the few times he asserted the privileges the rank implied. So he watched the videos of the fights with Stilson and Bonzo, watched as the photographs of the corpses were displayed, listened as the psychologists and lawyers argued whether murder had been committed or the killing was in self-defense. Ender had his own opinion, but no one asked him, Throughout the trial, it was really Ender himself under attack. The prosecution was too clever to charge him directly, but there were attempts to make him look sick, perverted, criminally insane.
Ender's Game - Chapter 15: Speaker for the Dead
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And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
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I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
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@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
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@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
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Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
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Yes. He saw videos of the fights and the aftermath.
And there was the matter of the court martial on the crimes of Colonel Graff. Admiral Chamrajnagar tried to keep Ender from watching it, but failed -- Ender had been awarded the rank of admiral, too, and this was one of the few times he asserted the privileges the rank implied. So he watched the videos of the fights with Stilson and Bonzo, watched as the photographs of the corpses were displayed, listened as the psychologists and lawyers argued whether murder had been committed or the killing was in self-defense. Ender had his own opinion, but no one asked him, Throughout the trial, it was really Ender himself under attack. The prosecution was too clever to charge him directly, but there were attempts to make him look sick, perverted, criminally insane.
Ender's Game - Chapter 15: Speaker for the Dead
answered yesterday
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And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
– Spencer
yesterday
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I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
yesterday
@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
– yrodro
yesterday
8
@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
yesterday
4
Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
– Mark
22 hours ago
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Yes. He saw videos of the fights and the aftermath.
And there was the matter of the court martial on the crimes of Colonel Graff. Admiral Chamrajnagar tried to keep Ender from watching it, but failed -- Ender had been awarded the rank of admiral, too, and this was one of the few times he asserted the privileges the rank implied. So he watched the videos of the fights with Stilson and Bonzo, watched as the photographs of the corpses were displayed, listened as the psychologists and lawyers argued whether murder had been committed or the killing was in self-defense. Ender had his own opinion, but no one asked him, Throughout the trial, it was really Ender himself under attack. The prosecution was too clever to charge him directly, but there were attempts to make him look sick, perverted, criminally insane.
Ender's Game - Chapter 15: Speaker for the Dead
answered yesterday
ValorumValorum
409k11029763198
7
And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
– Spencer
yesterday
2
I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
yesterday
@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
– yrodro
yesterday
8
@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
yesterday
4
Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
– Mark
22 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes. He saw videos of the fights and the aftermath.
And there was the matter of the court martial on the crimes of Colonel Graff. Admiral Chamrajnagar tried to keep Ender from watching it, but failed -- Ender had been awarded the rank of admiral, too, and this was one of the few times he asserted the privileges the rank implied. So he watched the videos of the fights with Stilson and Bonzo, watched as the photographs of the corpses were displayed, listened as the psychologists and lawyers argued whether murder had been committed or the killing was in self-defense. Ender had his own opinion, but no one asked him, Throughout the trial, it was really Ender himself under attack. The prosecution was too clever to charge him directly, but there were attempts to make him look sick, perverted, criminally insane.
Ender's Game - Chapter 15: Speaker for the Dead
answered yesterday
ValorumValorum
409k11029763198
Yes. He saw videos of the fights and the aftermath.
And there was the matter of the court martial on the crimes of Colonel Graff. Admiral Chamrajnagar tried to keep Ender from watching it, but failed -- Ender had been awarded the rank of admiral, too, and this was one of the few times he asserted the privileges the rank implied. So he watched the videos of the fights with Stilson and Bonzo, watched as the photographs of the corpses were displayed, listened as the psychologists and lawyers argued whether murder had been committed or the killing was in self-defense. Ender had his own opinion, but no one asked him, Throughout the trial, it was really Ender himself under attack. The prosecution was too clever to charge him directly, but there were attempts to make him look sick, perverted, criminally insane.
Ender's Game - Chapter 15: Speaker for the Dead
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And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
– Spencer
yesterday
2
I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
yesterday
@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
– yrodro
yesterday
8
@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
yesterday
4
Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
– Mark
22 hours ago
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7
And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
– Spencer
yesterday
2
I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
yesterday
@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
– yrodro
yesterday
8
@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
yesterday
4
Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
– Mark
22 hours ago
7
7
And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
– Spencer
yesterday
And that of course was Peter pulling the strings.
– Spencer
yesterday
2
2
I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
yesterday
I have listened to the audiobook about 5 times in the past year, and I had never heard this part. I had to go back and try to find it, the funny thing is, I missed it this time too! I had to go back again. There must have been something that triggers me to zone out around this part.
– Dylan
yesterday
@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
– yrodro
yesterday
@Dylan Guess I was in the exact same boat
– yrodro
yesterday
8
8
@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
yesterday
@yrodro Wikipedia says Chapter 15 in particular was rewritten at some point, maybe the version you read was another edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game#Revisions
– Milo P
yesterday
4
4
Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
– Mark
22 hours ago
Speaker for the Dead also makes it clear, although indirectly: after someone comments on his ability to remain calm, he makes a comment to the effect of "when someone kills two people with his bare hands before the age of twelve, he either learns self-control or he loses his humanity".
– Mark
22 hours ago
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