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Yesterday, I imported a large set of data into a Mathematica notebook and stored each imported list of numbers in a function. For example, I would map a list like 10, 20, 30
to a function value as shown below
f[0] = 10, 20 30;
f[1] = 40, 50, 60;
With the lists stored in the functions I generated the below chart by writing
averageComparisonChart =
BarChart[fpAverages, fpiAverages,
ChartLabels -> "FP Quicksort", "FP Insertion Quicksort",
Range[0, 160, 10], AxesLabel -> HoldForm["Vector size"],
HoldForm["Execution time (ms)"], PlotLabel -> HoldForm["Quicksort vs.
Insertion sort"], LabelStyle -> GrayLevel[0]]
which output
Before going to bed, I saved my notebook and shut down my computer. Today, all my functions have been reset. For example inputting f[0]
outputs f[0]
rather than the previously assigned list 10, 20, 30
.
Does anyone know what has caused this issue? How can a loss of data be avoided in the future? Is there a better way to store lists than in functions? Is there a way to restore the values from yesterday?
Related Question
The accepted answer to this question provides a method for creating persistence of data between sessions.
functions variable-definitions persistence
New contributor
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$begingroup$
Yesterday, I imported a large set of data into a Mathematica notebook and stored each imported list of numbers in a function. For example, I would map a list like 10, 20, 30
to a function value as shown below
f[0] = 10, 20 30;
f[1] = 40, 50, 60;
With the lists stored in the functions I generated the below chart by writing
averageComparisonChart =
BarChart[fpAverages, fpiAverages,
ChartLabels -> "FP Quicksort", "FP Insertion Quicksort",
Range[0, 160, 10], AxesLabel -> HoldForm["Vector size"],
HoldForm["Execution time (ms)"], PlotLabel -> HoldForm["Quicksort vs.
Insertion sort"], LabelStyle -> GrayLevel[0]]
which output
Before going to bed, I saved my notebook and shut down my computer. Today, all my functions have been reset. For example inputting f[0]
outputs f[0]
rather than the previously assigned list 10, 20, 30
.
Does anyone know what has caused this issue? How can a loss of data be avoided in the future? Is there a better way to store lists than in functions? Is there a way to restore the values from yesterday?
Related Question
The accepted answer to this question provides a method for creating persistence of data between sessions.
functions variable-definitions persistence
New contributor
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
What exactly is the question? You seem to be aware of the fact that Mathematica does not save the kernel state together with the notebook (see linked question), which explains why your values are gone. In general, a notebook should contain everything needed to restore the kernel state (this means e.g. that you have to keep all definitions that are required in the notebook)
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
You may want to look atIconize
.
$endgroup$
– Carl Lange
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@LukasLang I was not aware that Mathematica does not save the kernel until recently. The question is what the best wat to create persistence of data in Mathematica.
$endgroup$
– K. Claesson
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
Which way is best depends on your exact workflow and requirements, which you have not stated. For different options, look at the linked question (and questions linked there),Iconize
(as suggested by @CarlLange),Put
/Export
andGet
/Import
.
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
2
$begingroup$
@K.Claesson What other system do you know that saves the state on exit without any user intervention? Most systems can't even save the state at all. Those that can (like R) still require the user to do it explicitly. It is not a natural expectation that definitions would persist.
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Yesterday, I imported a large set of data into a Mathematica notebook and stored each imported list of numbers in a function. For example, I would map a list like 10, 20, 30
to a function value as shown below
f[0] = 10, 20 30;
f[1] = 40, 50, 60;
With the lists stored in the functions I generated the below chart by writing
averageComparisonChart =
BarChart[fpAverages, fpiAverages,
ChartLabels -> "FP Quicksort", "FP Insertion Quicksort",
Range[0, 160, 10], AxesLabel -> HoldForm["Vector size"],
HoldForm["Execution time (ms)"], PlotLabel -> HoldForm["Quicksort vs.
Insertion sort"], LabelStyle -> GrayLevel[0]]
which output
Before going to bed, I saved my notebook and shut down my computer. Today, all my functions have been reset. For example inputting f[0]
outputs f[0]
rather than the previously assigned list 10, 20, 30
.
Does anyone know what has caused this issue? How can a loss of data be avoided in the future? Is there a better way to store lists than in functions? Is there a way to restore the values from yesterday?
Related Question
The accepted answer to this question provides a method for creating persistence of data between sessions.
functions variable-definitions persistence
New contributor
$endgroup$
Yesterday, I imported a large set of data into a Mathematica notebook and stored each imported list of numbers in a function. For example, I would map a list like 10, 20, 30
to a function value as shown below
f[0] = 10, 20 30;
f[1] = 40, 50, 60;
With the lists stored in the functions I generated the below chart by writing
averageComparisonChart =
BarChart[fpAverages, fpiAverages,
ChartLabels -> "FP Quicksort", "FP Insertion Quicksort",
Range[0, 160, 10], AxesLabel -> HoldForm["Vector size"],
HoldForm["Execution time (ms)"], PlotLabel -> HoldForm["Quicksort vs.
Insertion sort"], LabelStyle -> GrayLevel[0]]
which output
Before going to bed, I saved my notebook and shut down my computer. Today, all my functions have been reset. For example inputting f[0]
outputs f[0]
rather than the previously assigned list 10, 20, 30
.
Does anyone know what has caused this issue? How can a loss of data be avoided in the future? Is there a better way to store lists than in functions? Is there a way to restore the values from yesterday?
Related Question
The accepted answer to this question provides a method for creating persistence of data between sessions.
functions variable-definitions persistence
functions variable-definitions persistence
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$begingroup$
What exactly is the question? You seem to be aware of the fact that Mathematica does not save the kernel state together with the notebook (see linked question), which explains why your values are gone. In general, a notebook should contain everything needed to restore the kernel state (this means e.g. that you have to keep all definitions that are required in the notebook)
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
You may want to look atIconize
.
$endgroup$
– Carl Lange
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@LukasLang I was not aware that Mathematica does not save the kernel until recently. The question is what the best wat to create persistence of data in Mathematica.
$endgroup$
– K. Claesson
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
Which way is best depends on your exact workflow and requirements, which you have not stated. For different options, look at the linked question (and questions linked there),Iconize
(as suggested by @CarlLange),Put
/Export
andGet
/Import
.
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
2
$begingroup$
@K.Claesson What other system do you know that saves the state on exit without any user intervention? Most systems can't even save the state at all. Those that can (like R) still require the user to do it explicitly. It is not a natural expectation that definitions would persist.
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
$begingroup$
What exactly is the question? You seem to be aware of the fact that Mathematica does not save the kernel state together with the notebook (see linked question), which explains why your values are gone. In general, a notebook should contain everything needed to restore the kernel state (this means e.g. that you have to keep all definitions that are required in the notebook)
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
You may want to look atIconize
.
$endgroup$
– Carl Lange
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@LukasLang I was not aware that Mathematica does not save the kernel until recently. The question is what the best wat to create persistence of data in Mathematica.
$endgroup$
– K. Claesson
2 days ago
1
$begingroup$
Which way is best depends on your exact workflow and requirements, which you have not stated. For different options, look at the linked question (and questions linked there),Iconize
(as suggested by @CarlLange),Put
/Export
andGet
/Import
.
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
2
$begingroup$
@K.Claesson What other system do you know that saves the state on exit without any user intervention? Most systems can't even save the state at all. Those that can (like R) still require the user to do it explicitly. It is not a natural expectation that definitions would persist.
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
1
1
$begingroup$
What exactly is the question? You seem to be aware of the fact that Mathematica does not save the kernel state together with the notebook (see linked question), which explains why your values are gone. In general, a notebook should contain everything needed to restore the kernel state (this means e.g. that you have to keep all definitions that are required in the notebook)
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
$begingroup$
What exactly is the question? You seem to be aware of the fact that Mathematica does not save the kernel state together with the notebook (see linked question), which explains why your values are gone. In general, a notebook should contain everything needed to restore the kernel state (this means e.g. that you have to keep all definitions that are required in the notebook)
$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
1
1
$begingroup$
You may want to look at
Iconize
.$endgroup$
– Carl Lange
2 days ago
$begingroup$
You may want to look at
Iconize
.$endgroup$
– Carl Lange
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@LukasLang I was not aware that Mathematica does not save the kernel until recently. The question is what the best wat to create persistence of data in Mathematica.
$endgroup$
– K. Claesson
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@LukasLang I was not aware that Mathematica does not save the kernel until recently. The question is what the best wat to create persistence of data in Mathematica.
$endgroup$
– K. Claesson
2 days ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Which way is best depends on your exact workflow and requirements, which you have not stated. For different options, look at the linked question (and questions linked there),
Iconize
(as suggested by @CarlLange), Put
/Export
and Get
/Import
.$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Which way is best depends on your exact workflow and requirements, which you have not stated. For different options, look at the linked question (and questions linked there),
Iconize
(as suggested by @CarlLange), Put
/Export
and Get
/Import
.$endgroup$
– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
2
2
$begingroup$
@K.Claesson What other system do you know that saves the state on exit without any user intervention? Most systems can't even save the state at all. Those that can (like R) still require the user to do it explicitly. It is not a natural expectation that definitions would persist.
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@K.Claesson What other system do you know that saves the state on exit without any user intervention? Most systems can't even save the state at all. Those that can (like R) still require the user to do it explicitly. It is not a natural expectation that definitions would persist.
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
|
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If you wrap your definitions in Once
then their results will be remembered across sessions:
f[0] = Once[Print["a"]; 10, 20, 30, "Local"]
Here the printing and the numbers 10, 20, 30
are used instead of a lengthy calculation that you only want to do once and whose result you want to remember in the next session.
On the first execution, the above code prints "a" and assigns the numbers 10, 20, 30
to f[0]
. On subsequent executions (even after you've closed Mathematica and come back and are reevaluating the notebook), the execution of the first argument of Once
does not take place any more, so there is no printing, and only the remembered result 10, 20, 30
is directly assigned to f[0]
. This speeds up the reprocessing on subsequent executions dramatically if the list 10, 20, 30
is replaced with something hard to compute.
With Once
you don't need to save/restore semi-manually as some comments suggest with Save
, DumpSave
, Get
. Instead, persistent storage operates transparently to cache what has been calculated before.
If you place these Once
calls within an initialization cell/group, then you have something resembling a persistent assignment.
Once
has more options: you can specify in which cache the persistent storage should be (in the front end session, or locally so that even when you close and reopen Mathematica it's still there) and how long it should persist.
Another way to create persistent objects is with PersistentValue
, which is a bit lower-level than Once
but basically the same mechanism.
How to get rid of persistent objects
A certain wariness with persistent storage is in order. But note that these Once
definitions are associated with a hash of the expression executed as the first argument to Once
, and not with where you're storing the result (as in f[0]
in my example): the documentation says that "Once has attribute HoldFirst and compares unevaluated expressions." In this sense I consider Once
a safe and unconfusing technique to use; I haven't run into trouble with undesired cross-contamination of unconditionally persistent objects. No persistent storage will be consulted unless you explicitly wrap an expression in Once
.
Nonetheless in practice I keep the persistent storage pool as clean as possible. As the documentation states, you can inspect the storage pool with
PersistentObjects["Hashes/Once/*"]
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/BlVsTGCUwUI", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]],
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/FziAfp1s_y2", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]]
and clean it with
DeleteObject[%]
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Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
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@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
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– Roman
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Like in all other systems I am familiar with, variable and function definitions exist in memory (RAM) only and do not persist across sessions.
If you want a definition to persist, you must save it explicitly. See Save
and DumpSave
.
However, what I recommend for cases like yours is not to store such data in DownValue
definitions. Store them in a data structure that is easy to serialize, then save them to a file. So, instead of f[1]=a; f[2]=b; f[3]=c
use a list a,b,c
. If the indices are not contiguous, you can use a SparseArray
or Association
. You can save any data that is stored as a Mathematica expression into an MX file, which is the most practical and flexible format for short-term storage (not for archiving because of weak cross-version compatibility promises). For archiving or for exchange with other systems, consider JSON: any expression that consists of lists, associations, numbers and strings can be saved to JSON.
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$begingroup$
If you wrap your definitions in Once
then their results will be remembered across sessions:
f[0] = Once[Print["a"]; 10, 20, 30, "Local"]
Here the printing and the numbers 10, 20, 30
are used instead of a lengthy calculation that you only want to do once and whose result you want to remember in the next session.
On the first execution, the above code prints "a" and assigns the numbers 10, 20, 30
to f[0]
. On subsequent executions (even after you've closed Mathematica and come back and are reevaluating the notebook), the execution of the first argument of Once
does not take place any more, so there is no printing, and only the remembered result 10, 20, 30
is directly assigned to f[0]
. This speeds up the reprocessing on subsequent executions dramatically if the list 10, 20, 30
is replaced with something hard to compute.
With Once
you don't need to save/restore semi-manually as some comments suggest with Save
, DumpSave
, Get
. Instead, persistent storage operates transparently to cache what has been calculated before.
If you place these Once
calls within an initialization cell/group, then you have something resembling a persistent assignment.
Once
has more options: you can specify in which cache the persistent storage should be (in the front end session, or locally so that even when you close and reopen Mathematica it's still there) and how long it should persist.
Another way to create persistent objects is with PersistentValue
, which is a bit lower-level than Once
but basically the same mechanism.
How to get rid of persistent objects
A certain wariness with persistent storage is in order. But note that these Once
definitions are associated with a hash of the expression executed as the first argument to Once
, and not with where you're storing the result (as in f[0]
in my example): the documentation says that "Once has attribute HoldFirst and compares unevaluated expressions." In this sense I consider Once
a safe and unconfusing technique to use; I haven't run into trouble with undesired cross-contamination of unconditionally persistent objects. No persistent storage will be consulted unless you explicitly wrap an expression in Once
.
Nonetheless in practice I keep the persistent storage pool as clean as possible. As the documentation states, you can inspect the storage pool with
PersistentObjects["Hashes/Once/*"]
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/BlVsTGCUwUI", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]],
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/FziAfp1s_y2", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]]
and clean it with
DeleteObject[%]
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
$endgroup$
– Roman
2 days ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If you wrap your definitions in Once
then their results will be remembered across sessions:
f[0] = Once[Print["a"]; 10, 20, 30, "Local"]
Here the printing and the numbers 10, 20, 30
are used instead of a lengthy calculation that you only want to do once and whose result you want to remember in the next session.
On the first execution, the above code prints "a" and assigns the numbers 10, 20, 30
to f[0]
. On subsequent executions (even after you've closed Mathematica and come back and are reevaluating the notebook), the execution of the first argument of Once
does not take place any more, so there is no printing, and only the remembered result 10, 20, 30
is directly assigned to f[0]
. This speeds up the reprocessing on subsequent executions dramatically if the list 10, 20, 30
is replaced with something hard to compute.
With Once
you don't need to save/restore semi-manually as some comments suggest with Save
, DumpSave
, Get
. Instead, persistent storage operates transparently to cache what has been calculated before.
If you place these Once
calls within an initialization cell/group, then you have something resembling a persistent assignment.
Once
has more options: you can specify in which cache the persistent storage should be (in the front end session, or locally so that even when you close and reopen Mathematica it's still there) and how long it should persist.
Another way to create persistent objects is with PersistentValue
, which is a bit lower-level than Once
but basically the same mechanism.
How to get rid of persistent objects
A certain wariness with persistent storage is in order. But note that these Once
definitions are associated with a hash of the expression executed as the first argument to Once
, and not with where you're storing the result (as in f[0]
in my example): the documentation says that "Once has attribute HoldFirst and compares unevaluated expressions." In this sense I consider Once
a safe and unconfusing technique to use; I haven't run into trouble with undesired cross-contamination of unconditionally persistent objects. No persistent storage will be consulted unless you explicitly wrap an expression in Once
.
Nonetheless in practice I keep the persistent storage pool as clean as possible. As the documentation states, you can inspect the storage pool with
PersistentObjects["Hashes/Once/*"]
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/BlVsTGCUwUI", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]],
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/FziAfp1s_y2", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]]
and clean it with
DeleteObject[%]
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
$endgroup$
– Szabolcs
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
$endgroup$
– Roman
2 days ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If you wrap your definitions in Once
then their results will be remembered across sessions:
f[0] = Once[Print["a"]; 10, 20, 30, "Local"]
Here the printing and the numbers 10, 20, 30
are used instead of a lengthy calculation that you only want to do once and whose result you want to remember in the next session.
On the first execution, the above code prints "a" and assigns the numbers 10, 20, 30
to f[0]
. On subsequent executions (even after you've closed Mathematica and come back and are reevaluating the notebook), the execution of the first argument of Once
does not take place any more, so there is no printing, and only the remembered result 10, 20, 30
is directly assigned to f[0]
. This speeds up the reprocessing on subsequent executions dramatically if the list 10, 20, 30
is replaced with something hard to compute.
With Once
you don't need to save/restore semi-manually as some comments suggest with Save
, DumpSave
, Get
. Instead, persistent storage operates transparently to cache what has been calculated before.
If you place these Once
calls within an initialization cell/group, then you have something resembling a persistent assignment.
Once
has more options: you can specify in which cache the persistent storage should be (in the front end session, or locally so that even when you close and reopen Mathematica it's still there) and how long it should persist.
Another way to create persistent objects is with PersistentValue
, which is a bit lower-level than Once
but basically the same mechanism.
How to get rid of persistent objects
A certain wariness with persistent storage is in order. But note that these Once
definitions are associated with a hash of the expression executed as the first argument to Once
, and not with where you're storing the result (as in f[0]
in my example): the documentation says that "Once has attribute HoldFirst and compares unevaluated expressions." In this sense I consider Once
a safe and unconfusing technique to use; I haven't run into trouble with undesired cross-contamination of unconditionally persistent objects. No persistent storage will be consulted unless you explicitly wrap an expression in Once
.
Nonetheless in practice I keep the persistent storage pool as clean as possible. As the documentation states, you can inspect the storage pool with
PersistentObjects["Hashes/Once/*"]
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/BlVsTGCUwUI", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]],
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/FziAfp1s_y2", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]]
and clean it with
DeleteObject[%]
$endgroup$
If you wrap your definitions in Once
then their results will be remembered across sessions:
f[0] = Once[Print["a"]; 10, 20, 30, "Local"]
Here the printing and the numbers 10, 20, 30
are used instead of a lengthy calculation that you only want to do once and whose result you want to remember in the next session.
On the first execution, the above code prints "a" and assigns the numbers 10, 20, 30
to f[0]
. On subsequent executions (even after you've closed Mathematica and come back and are reevaluating the notebook), the execution of the first argument of Once
does not take place any more, so there is no printing, and only the remembered result 10, 20, 30
is directly assigned to f[0]
. This speeds up the reprocessing on subsequent executions dramatically if the list 10, 20, 30
is replaced with something hard to compute.
With Once
you don't need to save/restore semi-manually as some comments suggest with Save
, DumpSave
, Get
. Instead, persistent storage operates transparently to cache what has been calculated before.
If you place these Once
calls within an initialization cell/group, then you have something resembling a persistent assignment.
Once
has more options: you can specify in which cache the persistent storage should be (in the front end session, or locally so that even when you close and reopen Mathematica it's still there) and how long it should persist.
Another way to create persistent objects is with PersistentValue
, which is a bit lower-level than Once
but basically the same mechanism.
How to get rid of persistent objects
A certain wariness with persistent storage is in order. But note that these Once
definitions are associated with a hash of the expression executed as the first argument to Once
, and not with where you're storing the result (as in f[0]
in my example): the documentation says that "Once has attribute HoldFirst and compares unevaluated expressions." In this sense I consider Once
a safe and unconfusing technique to use; I haven't run into trouble with undesired cross-contamination of unconditionally persistent objects. No persistent storage will be consulted unless you explicitly wrap an expression in Once
.
Nonetheless in practice I keep the persistent storage pool as clean as possible. As the documentation states, you can inspect the storage pool with
PersistentObjects["Hashes/Once/*"]
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/BlVsTGCUwUI", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]],
PersistentObject["Hashes/Once/FziAfp1s_y2", PersistentLocation[..., Type:Local]]
and clean it with
DeleteObject[%]
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Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
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– Szabolcs
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@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
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Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
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– Szabolcs
2 days ago
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@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
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– Roman
2 days ago
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Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
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– Szabolcs
2 days ago
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Do you use this in practice? It feels a bit dangerous to make definitions unconditionally persistent ... Could you add the command to reset these definitions (in case someone messes up their Mathematica and needs a way to revert it)?
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– Szabolcs
2 days ago
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@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
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– Roman
2 days ago
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@Szabolcs yes I agree, see my edit. Thanks for bringing this up, it was a hurdle for me to get started too.
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Like in all other systems I am familiar with, variable and function definitions exist in memory (RAM) only and do not persist across sessions.
If you want a definition to persist, you must save it explicitly. See Save
and DumpSave
.
However, what I recommend for cases like yours is not to store such data in DownValue
definitions. Store them in a data structure that is easy to serialize, then save them to a file. So, instead of f[1]=a; f[2]=b; f[3]=c
use a list a,b,c
. If the indices are not contiguous, you can use a SparseArray
or Association
. You can save any data that is stored as a Mathematica expression into an MX file, which is the most practical and flexible format for short-term storage (not for archiving because of weak cross-version compatibility promises). For archiving or for exchange with other systems, consider JSON: any expression that consists of lists, associations, numbers and strings can be saved to JSON.
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Like in all other systems I am familiar with, variable and function definitions exist in memory (RAM) only and do not persist across sessions.
If you want a definition to persist, you must save it explicitly. See Save
and DumpSave
.
However, what I recommend for cases like yours is not to store such data in DownValue
definitions. Store them in a data structure that is easy to serialize, then save them to a file. So, instead of f[1]=a; f[2]=b; f[3]=c
use a list a,b,c
. If the indices are not contiguous, you can use a SparseArray
or Association
. You can save any data that is stored as a Mathematica expression into an MX file, which is the most practical and flexible format for short-term storage (not for archiving because of weak cross-version compatibility promises). For archiving or for exchange with other systems, consider JSON: any expression that consists of lists, associations, numbers and strings can be saved to JSON.
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Like in all other systems I am familiar with, variable and function definitions exist in memory (RAM) only and do not persist across sessions.
If you want a definition to persist, you must save it explicitly. See Save
and DumpSave
.
However, what I recommend for cases like yours is not to store such data in DownValue
definitions. Store them in a data structure that is easy to serialize, then save them to a file. So, instead of f[1]=a; f[2]=b; f[3]=c
use a list a,b,c
. If the indices are not contiguous, you can use a SparseArray
or Association
. You can save any data that is stored as a Mathematica expression into an MX file, which is the most practical and flexible format for short-term storage (not for archiving because of weak cross-version compatibility promises). For archiving or for exchange with other systems, consider JSON: any expression that consists of lists, associations, numbers and strings can be saved to JSON.
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Like in all other systems I am familiar with, variable and function definitions exist in memory (RAM) only and do not persist across sessions.
If you want a definition to persist, you must save it explicitly. See Save
and DumpSave
.
However, what I recommend for cases like yours is not to store such data in DownValue
definitions. Store them in a data structure that is easy to serialize, then save them to a file. So, instead of f[1]=a; f[2]=b; f[3]=c
use a list a,b,c
. If the indices are not contiguous, you can use a SparseArray
or Association
. You can save any data that is stored as a Mathematica expression into an MX file, which is the most practical and flexible format for short-term storage (not for archiving because of weak cross-version compatibility promises). For archiving or for exchange with other systems, consider JSON: any expression that consists of lists, associations, numbers and strings can be saved to JSON.
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What exactly is the question? You seem to be aware of the fact that Mathematica does not save the kernel state together with the notebook (see linked question), which explains why your values are gone. In general, a notebook should contain everything needed to restore the kernel state (this means e.g. that you have to keep all definitions that are required in the notebook)
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– Lukas Lang
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You may want to look at
Iconize
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– Carl Lange
2 days ago
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@LukasLang I was not aware that Mathematica does not save the kernel until recently. The question is what the best wat to create persistence of data in Mathematica.
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– K. Claesson
2 days ago
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Which way is best depends on your exact workflow and requirements, which you have not stated. For different options, look at the linked question (and questions linked there),
Iconize
(as suggested by @CarlLange),Put
/Export
andGet
/Import
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– Lukas Lang
2 days ago
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@K.Claesson What other system do you know that saves the state on exit without any user intervention? Most systems can't even save the state at all. Those that can (like R) still require the user to do it explicitly. It is not a natural expectation that definitions would persist.
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– Szabolcs
2 days ago