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Is it improper etiquette to ask your opponent what his/her rating is before the game?



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Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



“Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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    Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

    – Thunderforge
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    Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

    – JiK
    Mar 25 at 12:47











  • I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

    – Tommiie
    Mar 25 at 12:52











  • It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

    – Qudit
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  • Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

    – Tommiie
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I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






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    To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

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It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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    Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



    That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



    You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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        Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
        Mar 24 at 23:02







      • 1





        Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

        – JiK
        Mar 25 at 12:47











      • I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 12:52











      • It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

        – Qudit
        Mar 25 at 19:41












      • Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 20:18















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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






      share|improve this answer




















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        Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
        Mar 24 at 23:02







      • 1





        Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

        – JiK
        Mar 25 at 12:47











      • I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 12:52











      • It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

        – Qudit
        Mar 25 at 19:41












      • Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 20:18













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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.






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      Yesterday, I played a tournament match, and at the table next to me the guy asked his opponent for his rating. “I don’t really know...” was the reply, “about 1580, I think. And yours?”



      “Euhm... about 1400”, the guy mumbles in reply.



      If you don’t want to give out your exact rating in reply or you don’t know it yourself, I would not ask the question to begin with. Furthermore, I thought the question was bad etiquette and would not really be happy with my opponent asking it.



      Finally, where I live, most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. So start the game, and then after a couple of moves, when your opponent is thinking, you can always go check the list.



      PS: I find that I play better when I don’t know my opponent's rating. Once I know his rating is a lot better, I get nervous and consider myself lost from the start. When I know his rating is much lower, I tend to play reckless and make mistakes.







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        Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
        Mar 24 at 23:02







      • 1





        Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

        – JiK
        Mar 25 at 12:47











      • I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 12:52











      • It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

        – Qudit
        Mar 25 at 19:41












      • Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 20:18












      • 1





        Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

        – Thunderforge
        Mar 24 at 23:02







      • 1





        Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

        – JiK
        Mar 25 at 12:47











      • I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 12:52











      • It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

        – Qudit
        Mar 25 at 19:41












      • Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

        – Tommiie
        Mar 25 at 20:18







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      Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

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      Mar 24 at 23:02






      Most tournaments have lists of all participating players and their rating which you can look at. If you know the names of your opponents, you can use the US Chess Federation's rating lookup tool, or your organization's equivalent.

      – Thunderforge
      Mar 24 at 23:02





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      Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

      – JiK
      Mar 25 at 12:47





      Why do you think this question is bad etiquette? Is it more that it might be awkward to ask other chess players about their rating in general, or that asking it just before the game is like playing mind games, or something else?

      – JiK
      Mar 25 at 12:47













      I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

      – Tommiie
      Mar 25 at 12:52





      I don't think it's awkward but I would say: look it up in the list or ask it after the game. Perhaps indeed, I consider it some mind game.

      – Tommiie
      Mar 25 at 12:52













      It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

      – Qudit
      Mar 25 at 19:41






      It's not a mind game. It's simply that it's more natural to ask the person who is sitting across from you than to go to find their name on a list that's posted on the other side of the room. Most chess players just want an honest game and few engage in mind games in my experience.

      – Qudit
      Mar 25 at 19:41














      Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

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      Perhaps you don't perceive it like that, Qudit, but others might.

      – Tommiie
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      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

        – Benjamin Raabe
        Mar 23 at 12:53















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      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






      share|improve this answer


















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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

        – Benjamin Raabe
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      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.






      share|improve this answer













      I don't think this would be a breach in etiquette - but I think it is a somewhat dangerous thing to do for you. Chess is as much about mental fortitude as it is about "playing skill" and regardless what your opponents answer is - it can get into your head and affect your play.

      If your opponent is a lot lower rated than you are, it tempts you to play these "Maybe he won't see it" moves, if he is higher rated, you might overestimate a bad sacrifice or a blunder he does.



      Considering the mental effects of a move, before and during the game, may prove to you as useful as considering the positional effects.







      share|improve this answer












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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

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        To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

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      To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

      – Benjamin Raabe
      Mar 23 at 12:53





      To add a quote from Mikhail Tal: "When I asked Fischer why he had not played a certain move in our game, he replied: 'Well, you laughed when I wrote it down!'".

      – Benjamin Raabe
      Mar 23 at 12:53











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      It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



      There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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        It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



        There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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          It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



          There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.






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          It isn't a beach of etiquette and is quite common in tournaments. Many scoresheets have a place to write the opponent's rating, so a lot of players ask while filling it out at the beginning of the match.



          There's no shame in being low-rated anyway. With the exception of top players, we're all novices compared to someone.







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              Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



              That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



              You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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                Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



                That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



                You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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                  Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



                  That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



                  You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE






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                  Some people are a bit self conscious if they are lower rated - better to look it up on the tournament list or ask a teammate.



                  That said, if it's a team game and I don't recognise the opponent or their name on the team sheet then I might ask - I do feel it is important to have a ballpark idea of your opponent's strength.



                  You could also try google if most of your opponents are >1800 FIDE







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