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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?
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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?
plot-explanation 12-monkeys
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It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11
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@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02
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this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.
– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 15:14
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@Nathaniel that's correct. His mission is not to stop him, and the scientists understand he can't change th future, but that doesn't stop him trying.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 18:05
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From a biological perspective, it does not make much sense anyway. If you have a virus in liquid suspension, opening the vial does not turn that virus into an aerosol just like that, even if the virus itself is usually airborne / transmitted by aerosol. And while the infectiousness of some pathogens can be downright terrifying, "opening a vial" would not doom "all people present". This kind of stuff is often done in movies for dramatic effect, but no virus or bacteria I know of is that infectious.
– DevSolar
Apr 5 at 7:48
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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?
plot-explanation 12-monkeys
edited Apr 3 at 18:40
Todd Wilcox
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asked Apr 3 at 1:59
Brady ByrumBrady Byrum
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Near the end of 12 Monkeys, the terrorist mad man OPENED one of the vials of virus at the screening, so wouldn't that have initiated the collapse of society anyway, by starting the death of all who were in the airport at that time, and wouldn't that have traveled everywhere those travelers were going?
plot-explanation 12-monkeys
plot-explanation 12-monkeys
edited Apr 3 at 18:40
Todd Wilcox
6,56212237
asked Apr 3 at 1:59
Brady ByrumBrady Byrum
12323
edited Apr 3 at 18:40
Todd Wilcox
6,56212237
asked Apr 3 at 1:59
Brady ByrumBrady Byrum
12323
edited Apr 3 at 18:40
Todd Wilcox
6,56212237
edited Apr 3 at 18:40
Todd Wilcox
6,56212237
edited Apr 3 at 18:40
Todd Wilcox
6,56212237
6,56212237
asked Apr 3 at 1:59
Brady ByrumBrady Byrum
12323
asked Apr 3 at 1:59
Brady ByrumBrady Byrum
12323
asked Apr 3 at 1:59
Brady ByrumBrady Byrum
12323
12323
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It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11
1
@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02
1
this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.
– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 15:14
1
@Nathaniel that's correct. His mission is not to stop him, and the scientists understand he can't change th future, but that doesn't stop him trying.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 18:05
1
From a biological perspective, it does not make much sense anyway. If you have a virus in liquid suspension, opening the vial does not turn that virus into an aerosol just like that, even if the virus itself is usually airborne / transmitted by aerosol. And while the infectiousness of some pathogens can be downright terrifying, "opening a vial" would not doom "all people present". This kind of stuff is often done in movies for dramatic effect, but no virus or bacteria I know of is that infectious.
– DevSolar
Apr 5 at 7:48
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show 2 more comments
7
It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11
1
@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02
1
this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.
– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 15:14
1
@Nathaniel that's correct. His mission is not to stop him, and the scientists understand he can't change th future, but that doesn't stop him trying.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 18:05
1
From a biological perspective, it does not make much sense anyway. If you have a virus in liquid suspension, opening the vial does not turn that virus into an aerosol just like that, even if the virus itself is usually airborne / transmitted by aerosol. And while the infectiousness of some pathogens can be downright terrifying, "opening a vial" would not doom "all people present". This kind of stuff is often done in movies for dramatic effect, but no virus or bacteria I know of is that infectious.
– DevSolar
Apr 5 at 7:48
7
7
It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11
It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11
1
1
@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02
@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02
1
1
this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.
– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 15:14
this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.
– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 15:14
1
1
@Nathaniel that's correct. His mission is not to stop him, and the scientists understand he can't change th future, but that doesn't stop him trying.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 18:05
@Nathaniel that's correct. His mission is not to stop him, and the scientists understand he can't change th future, but that doesn't stop him trying.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 18:05
1
1
From a biological perspective, it does not make much sense anyway. If you have a virus in liquid suspension, opening the vial does not turn that virus into an aerosol just like that, even if the virus itself is usually airborne / transmitted by aerosol. And while the infectiousness of some pathogens can be downright terrifying, "opening a vial" would not doom "all people present". This kind of stuff is often done in movies for dramatic effect, but no virus or bacteria I know of is that infectious.
– DevSolar
Apr 5 at 7:48
From a biological perspective, it does not make much sense anyway. If you have a virus in liquid suspension, opening the vial does not turn that virus into an aerosol just like that, even if the virus itself is usually airborne / transmitted by aerosol. And while the infectiousness of some pathogens can be downright terrifying, "opening a vial" would not doom "all people present". This kind of stuff is often done in movies for dramatic effect, but no virus or bacteria I know of is that infectious.
– DevSolar
Apr 5 at 7:48
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Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:
COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
original form before it mutates. So
scientists can come back and study it
and find a cure. So that those of us
who survived can go back to the surface
of the earth.
The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
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A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
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The goal of the scientists of the future was never to stop the outbreak (their past cannot be changed) it was to develop a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
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2 Answers
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Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:
COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
original form before it mutates. So
scientists can come back and study it
and find a cure. So that those of us
who survived can go back to the surface
of the earth.
The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
2
A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
add a comment |
Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:
COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
original form before it mutates. So
scientists can come back and study it
and find a cure. So that those of us
who survived can go back to the surface
of the earth.
The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
2
A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
add a comment |
Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:
COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
original form before it mutates. So
scientists can come back and study it
and find a cure. So that those of us
who survived can go back to the surface
of the earth.
The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
Because the plan was never to change the past but to obtain the original virus, as he told to Railly:
COLE: I just have to locate the virus in its
original form before it mutates. So
scientists can come back and study it
and find a cure. So that those of us
who survived can go back to the surface
of the earth.
The issue was in current time virus was mutating and they needed the original form to craft a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
edited Apr 3 at 7:23
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
answered Apr 3 at 7:15
Ankit SharmaAnkit Sharma
77.4k65416631
77.4k65416631
2
A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
add a comment |
2
A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
2
2
A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
A better answer than mine because of the quotation. +1, and also *1 as a bonus.
– James McLeod
Apr 3 at 13:01
add a comment |
The goal of the scientists of the future was never to stop the outbreak (their past cannot be changed) it was to develop a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
add a comment |
The goal of the scientists of the future was never to stop the outbreak (their past cannot be changed) it was to develop a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
add a comment |
The goal of the scientists of the future was never to stop the outbreak (their past cannot be changed) it was to develop a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
The goal of the scientists of the future was never to stop the outbreak (their past cannot be changed) it was to develop a cure.
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
answered Apr 3 at 2:28
James McLeodJames McLeod
4,34912131
4,34912131
add a comment |
add a comment |
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It's not clear what your question is. Are you asking whether Cole failed in his attempt to stop the virus? That's was quite clearly the case: it's a stable-time loop universe.
– Acccumulation
Apr 4 at 1:11
1
@Nathaniel, they were never trying to stop it, only study to help in the future.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 11:02
1
this answer suggests that Cole is indeed trying to change the past at that point, and the scientists in the future are actually trying to stop him. It seems open to interpretation though.
– Nathaniel
Apr 4 at 15:14
1
@Nathaniel that's correct. His mission is not to stop him, and the scientists understand he can't change th future, but that doesn't stop him trying.
– Tom.Bowen89
Apr 4 at 18:05
1
From a biological perspective, it does not make much sense anyway. If you have a virus in liquid suspension, opening the vial does not turn that virus into an aerosol just like that, even if the virus itself is usually airborne / transmitted by aerosol. And while the infectiousness of some pathogens can be downright terrifying, "opening a vial" would not doom "all people present". This kind of stuff is often done in movies for dramatic effect, but no virus or bacteria I know of is that infectious.
– DevSolar
Apr 5 at 7:48