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Nash embedding theorem for 2D manifoldsDo symmetric spaces admit isometric embeddings as intersections of quadrics?altering curvature on a tessellation representation of a compact surfaceSymmetries vs. Bound in codimension of Nash isometric embeddingNon-trivial isometric embedding of the standard sphere into $mathbbR^n$?Hilbert's Theorem relevance to positive curvatureIsometry group of a compact hyperbolic surfaceCompact surface with arbitrarily large eigenvalueIsometric embedding for manifolds with conical singularities?Isometric embedding of regular simplex into Riemannian manifoldQuantitative upper bound on mean curvature of an isometric embedding













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The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).



Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.



I believe these facts and references may be found in:



Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.






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    @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
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    That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
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    @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
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I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.






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    The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).



    Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.



    I believe these facts and references may be found in:



    Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.






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      @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
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      That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
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      @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
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      $endgroup$
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    $begingroup$

    The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).



    Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.



    I believe these facts and references may be found in:



    Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.






    share|cite|improve this answer











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      There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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      Mar 20 at 14:30










    • $begingroup$
      @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
      $endgroup$
      – Sean Lawton
      Mar 20 at 14:33







    • 1




      $begingroup$
      That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
      $endgroup$
      – John Pardon
      Mar 20 at 14:38










    • $begingroup$
      @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
      $endgroup$
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      Mar 20 at 14:40







    • 1




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      @JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
      $endgroup$
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    The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).



    Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.



    I believe these facts and references may be found in:



    Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.






    share|cite|improve this answer











    $endgroup$



    The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).



    Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.



    I believe these facts and references may be found in:



    Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.







    share|cite|improve this answer














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      @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
      $endgroup$
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      Mar 20 at 14:33







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      That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
      $endgroup$
      – John Pardon
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      @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
      $endgroup$
      – Sean Lawton
      Mar 20 at 14:40







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      @JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
      $endgroup$
      – Sean Lawton
      Mar 20 at 14:48












    • 1




      $begingroup$
      There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
      $endgroup$
      – John Pardon
      Mar 20 at 14:30










    • $begingroup$
      @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
      $endgroup$
      – Sean Lawton
      Mar 20 at 14:33







    • 1




      $begingroup$
      That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
      $endgroup$
      – John Pardon
      Mar 20 at 14:38










    • $begingroup$
      @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
      $endgroup$
      – Sean Lawton
      Mar 20 at 14:40







    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
      $endgroup$
      – Sean Lawton
      Mar 20 at 14:48







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    There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
    $endgroup$
    – John Pardon
    Mar 20 at 14:30












    $begingroup$
    @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
    $endgroup$
    – Sean Lawton
    Mar 20 at 14:33





    $begingroup$
    @JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
    $endgroup$
    – Sean Lawton
    Mar 20 at 14:33





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    That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
    $endgroup$
    – John Pardon
    Mar 20 at 14:38




    $begingroup$
    That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
    $endgroup$
    – John Pardon
    Mar 20 at 14:38












    $begingroup$
    @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Sean Lawton
    Mar 20 at 14:40





    $begingroup$
    @JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Sean Lawton
    Mar 20 at 14:40





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    $begingroup$
    @JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
    $endgroup$
    – Sean Lawton
    Mar 20 at 14:48




    $begingroup$
    @JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 20 at 14:48











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    I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.






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      I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.






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        I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.






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        I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.







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