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Isometric embedding of a genus g surface
Nash embedding theorem for 2D manifoldsDo symmetric spaces admit isometric embeddings as intersections of quadrics?altering curvature on a tessellation representation of a compact surfaceSymmetries vs. Bound in codimension of Nash isometric embeddingNon-trivial isometric embedding of the standard sphere into $mathbbR^n$?Hilbert's Theorem relevance to positive curvatureIsometry group of a compact hyperbolic surfaceCompact surface with arbitrarily large eigenvalueIsometric embedding for manifolds with conical singularities?Isometric embedding of regular simplex into Riemannian manifoldQuantitative upper bound on mean curvature of an isometric embedding
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Can a genus $g$ surface with constant negative curvature and $g>1$ be isometrically embedded in $mathbbR^4?$
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Is there any example or counter example?
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Relevant: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1528046/…
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– Aknazar Kazhymurat
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So, is this an open problem?
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Can a genus $g$ surface with constant negative curvature and $g>1$ be isometrically embedded in $mathbbR^4?$
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Can a genus $g$ surface with constant negative curvature and $g>1$ be isometrically embedded in $mathbbR^4?$
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Is there any example or counter example?
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– GAUTAM NEELAKANTAN MEMANA
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Relevant: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1528046/…
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– Aknazar Kazhymurat
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So, is this an open problem?
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Mar 20 at 8:59
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You might be interested in this question and its answers.
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Is there any example or counter example?
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Relevant: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1528046/…
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– Aknazar Kazhymurat
Mar 20 at 8:57
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So, is this an open problem?
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– GAUTAM NEELAKANTAN MEMANA
Mar 20 at 8:59
3
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You might be interested in this question and its answers.
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– Michael Albanese
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Is there any example or counter example?
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– GAUTAM NEELAKANTAN MEMANA
Mar 20 at 8:53
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Is there any example or counter example?
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Relevant: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1528046/…
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– Aknazar Kazhymurat
Mar 20 at 8:57
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Relevant: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1528046/…
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– Aknazar Kazhymurat
Mar 20 at 8:57
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So, is this an open problem?
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– GAUTAM NEELAKANTAN MEMANA
Mar 20 at 8:59
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So, is this an open problem?
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– GAUTAM NEELAKANTAN MEMANA
Mar 20 at 8:59
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3
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You might be interested in this question and its answers.
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The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).
Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.
I believe these facts and references may be found in:
Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.
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There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
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@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
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That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
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@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
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@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
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I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.
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The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).
Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.
I believe these facts and references may be found in:
Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.
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There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
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@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
1
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That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
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@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
1
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@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:48
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show 1 more comment
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The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).
Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.
I believe these facts and references may be found in:
Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.
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1
$begingroup$
There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
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@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
1
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That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
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@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
1
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:48
|
show 1 more comment
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The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).
Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.
I believe these facts and references may be found in:
Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.
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The Nash-Kuiper Theorem implies the answer is yes if you only require the embedding to be of class $C^1$. However, I believe the actual visualization problem for $ggeq 2$ (that is, producing the embedding in this case) is an open problem (unlike the visualization of the $C^1$-embedding of the flat torus, which has a $C^infty$-isometric embedding into $mathbbR^4$).
Since the smallest known $C^infty$-embedding for the hyperbolic plane is $mathbbR^6$ I would guess the answer is no for a genus 2 hyperbolic surface (but as far as I know it is open). Note it is a theorem of Hilbert that the hyperbolic plane cannot be $C^r$-embedded into $mathbbR^3$ for $rgeq 2$. Later Efimov generalized this to closed hyperbolic surfaces.
I believe these facts and references may be found in:
Isometric Embedding of Riemannian Manifolds in Euclidean Spaces by Qing Han, and Jia-Xing Hong.
edited Mar 20 at 14:42
answered Mar 20 at 9:08
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There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
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@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
1
$begingroup$
That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
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@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
1
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
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– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:48
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show 1 more comment
1
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There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
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@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
1
$begingroup$
That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
$endgroup$
– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
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@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
1
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:48
1
1
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There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
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– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
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There are visualizations of the Nash--Kuiper embeddings here: hevea-project.fr
$endgroup$
– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:30
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon Thanks for the link. However, I already knew about the flat tori and Nash spheres from Hevea; I referenced one in my answer. It is the hyperbolic ones for closed surfaces of $ggeq 2$ that are not presently visualized (as far as I know).
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:33
1
1
$begingroup$
That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
$endgroup$
– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
$begingroup$
That's a confusing place to put the link: the smooth flat embedding of the torus in R^4 and the C^1 flat embedding of the torus in R^3 aren't related at all.
$endgroup$
– John Pardon
Mar 20 at 14:38
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon I was trying to contrast the situation for $g=1$ and $ggeq 2$ (minimal smooth embedding vs visualization of $C^1$-embedding). Sorry if it confused you. I made an edit that hopefully makes my intent more clear. Thanks for the comment.
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:40
1
1
$begingroup$
@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:48
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@JohnPardon Sure, I know the method works theoretically in general, but actually doing it is computationally complicated (which is why it hasn't been done).
$endgroup$
– Sean Lawton
Mar 20 at 14:48
|
show 1 more comment
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I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.
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I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.
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I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.
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I don't know the answer to your question, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were open. You may be interested to know that any compact Riemannian two-manifold $(V, g)$ admits a $C^infty$ isometric embedding $V to mathbbR^5$. See Gromov's Partial Differential Relations, pages 298 - 303.
edited Mar 20 at 11:50
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Relevant: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1528046/…
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So, is this an open problem?
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