How to deal with taxi scam when on vacation?In Malaysia, how should I deal with taxi drivers wanting to go off-meter?How to protect electronics on a beach holiday/vacationHow expensive is a vacation to Japan?How to deal with the fake police scam in Spain?How do I recognize a scam website?How to tell scam taxis from legitimate ones in Bangkok? Does it make sense prebooking?Can I leave the airport and take a taxi with BRL Reais?How does the taxi scam work at Luohu station in Shenzhen?How can I report a taxi driver in Hong Kong with no plate and no driver name displayed in the car?Victim of a Vacation Rental Scam, how should I get the refund?

Python: Check if string and its substring are existing in the same list

Russian cases: A few examples, I'm really confused

It's a yearly task, alright

Force user to remove USB token

What has been your most complicated TikZ drawing?

Why do passenger jet manufacturers design their planes with stall prevention systems?

Why doesn't the EU now just force the UK to choose between referendum and no-deal?

Employee lack of ownership

Know when to turn notes upside-down(eighth notes, sixteen notes, etc.)

Can I respond to my Infinite loop with a summon

Why are there 40 737 Max planes in flight when they have been grounded as not airworthy?

All function values have been reset after restarting Mathematica

Provisioning profile doesn't include the application-identifier and keychain-access-groups entitlements

Does this property of comaximal ideals always holds?

Identifying the interval from A♭ to D♯

Increase thickness of graph lines larger than ultra thick

Why would a flight no longer considered airworthy be redirected like this?

What are substitutions for coconut in curry?

Equation Array Exceed Right Margin

Making a sword in the stone, in a medieval world without magic

Why did it take so long to abandon sail after steamships were demonstrated?

Instead of Universal Basic Income, why not Universal Basic NEEDS?

Do I need life insurance if I can cover my own funeral costs?

Science-fiction short story where space navy wanted hospital ships and settlers had guns mounted everywhere



How to deal with taxi scam when on vacation?


In Malaysia, how should I deal with taxi drivers wanting to go off-meter?How to protect electronics on a beach holiday/vacationHow expensive is a vacation to Japan?How to deal with the fake police scam in Spain?How do I recognize a scam website?How to tell scam taxis from legitimate ones in Bangkok? Does it make sense prebooking?Can I leave the airport and take a taxi with BRL Reais?How does the taxi scam work at Luohu station in Shenzhen?How can I report a taxi driver in Hong Kong with no plate and no driver name displayed in the car?Victim of a Vacation Rental Scam, how should I get the refund?













21















I am on vacation and I have realized that some people here in Turkey are trying their best to get the money out of my pocket. I have already had a situation where after a folklore show I decided to take a taxi to my hotel because Istanbul is not a place where I want to be walking at night on the streets.



I found a taxi in front of a hotel. I show him my hotel's card so he can check the address and my friend and I jumped in. After he drives me to a different part of the city, he told me that he understood that I said a different hotel. At the end I paid twice the price because of the extra miles with the taxi meter.



In my opinion he did that on purpose, just to make the taxi meter run longer.



How do you deal in a polite way with this kind of event?? Can I just say: hey it is your mistake, so I am not paying for that??










share|improve this question



















  • 9





    You must ask for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps if you find out beforehand eg from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not.

    – Traveller
    15 hours ago






  • 3





    @Traveller - Can you make that an Answer? The two answers (so far) require you to have a smartphone with Internet (or at least pre-downloaded maps that work with GPS) that many travelers may not have (or may not want to pull out their $800+ smart phone in various situations).

    – BruceWayne
    10 hours ago











  • How does asking the price beforehand work in places that use meters? In many areas, the driver legally must charge the metered fare and can’t give you a price.

    – Zach Lipton
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    @ZachLipton it prevents the driver from deliberately taking a roundabout route in order to increase his fare. If he's told you in advance for example the trip will be 10 Euro and he tries to charge you 50 in the end, he's got a problem.

    – jwenting
    5 hours ago











  • in such situation always keep your eye on google map directions, I have faced this kind of issue many time in other country But If we have google map direction started on our mobile then we may ask him to be on proper route and situation can be avoided.

    – Dhaval Solanki
    5 hours ago















21















I am on vacation and I have realized that some people here in Turkey are trying their best to get the money out of my pocket. I have already had a situation where after a folklore show I decided to take a taxi to my hotel because Istanbul is not a place where I want to be walking at night on the streets.



I found a taxi in front of a hotel. I show him my hotel's card so he can check the address and my friend and I jumped in. After he drives me to a different part of the city, he told me that he understood that I said a different hotel. At the end I paid twice the price because of the extra miles with the taxi meter.



In my opinion he did that on purpose, just to make the taxi meter run longer.



How do you deal in a polite way with this kind of event?? Can I just say: hey it is your mistake, so I am not paying for that??










share|improve this question



















  • 9





    You must ask for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps if you find out beforehand eg from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not.

    – Traveller
    15 hours ago






  • 3





    @Traveller - Can you make that an Answer? The two answers (so far) require you to have a smartphone with Internet (or at least pre-downloaded maps that work with GPS) that many travelers may not have (or may not want to pull out their $800+ smart phone in various situations).

    – BruceWayne
    10 hours ago











  • How does asking the price beforehand work in places that use meters? In many areas, the driver legally must charge the metered fare and can’t give you a price.

    – Zach Lipton
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    @ZachLipton it prevents the driver from deliberately taking a roundabout route in order to increase his fare. If he's told you in advance for example the trip will be 10 Euro and he tries to charge you 50 in the end, he's got a problem.

    – jwenting
    5 hours ago











  • in such situation always keep your eye on google map directions, I have faced this kind of issue many time in other country But If we have google map direction started on our mobile then we may ask him to be on proper route and situation can be avoided.

    – Dhaval Solanki
    5 hours ago













21












21








21








I am on vacation and I have realized that some people here in Turkey are trying their best to get the money out of my pocket. I have already had a situation where after a folklore show I decided to take a taxi to my hotel because Istanbul is not a place where I want to be walking at night on the streets.



I found a taxi in front of a hotel. I show him my hotel's card so he can check the address and my friend and I jumped in. After he drives me to a different part of the city, he told me that he understood that I said a different hotel. At the end I paid twice the price because of the extra miles with the taxi meter.



In my opinion he did that on purpose, just to make the taxi meter run longer.



How do you deal in a polite way with this kind of event?? Can I just say: hey it is your mistake, so I am not paying for that??










share|improve this question
















I am on vacation and I have realized that some people here in Turkey are trying their best to get the money out of my pocket. I have already had a situation where after a folklore show I decided to take a taxi to my hotel because Istanbul is not a place where I want to be walking at night on the streets.



I found a taxi in front of a hotel. I show him my hotel's card so he can check the address and my friend and I jumped in. After he drives me to a different part of the city, he told me that he understood that I said a different hotel. At the end I paid twice the price because of the extra miles with the taxi meter.



In my opinion he did that on purpose, just to make the taxi meter run longer.



How do you deal in a polite way with this kind of event?? Can I just say: hey it is your mistake, so I am not paying for that??







money taxis scams vacations






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 15 hours ago









mkennedy

6,4472742




6,4472742










asked 16 hours ago









ΦXocę 웃 Пepeúpa ツΦXocę 웃 Пepeúpa ツ

980216




980216







  • 9





    You must ask for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps if you find out beforehand eg from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not.

    – Traveller
    15 hours ago






  • 3





    @Traveller - Can you make that an Answer? The two answers (so far) require you to have a smartphone with Internet (or at least pre-downloaded maps that work with GPS) that many travelers may not have (or may not want to pull out their $800+ smart phone in various situations).

    – BruceWayne
    10 hours ago











  • How does asking the price beforehand work in places that use meters? In many areas, the driver legally must charge the metered fare and can’t give you a price.

    – Zach Lipton
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    @ZachLipton it prevents the driver from deliberately taking a roundabout route in order to increase his fare. If he's told you in advance for example the trip will be 10 Euro and he tries to charge you 50 in the end, he's got a problem.

    – jwenting
    5 hours ago











  • in such situation always keep your eye on google map directions, I have faced this kind of issue many time in other country But If we have google map direction started on our mobile then we may ask him to be on proper route and situation can be avoided.

    – Dhaval Solanki
    5 hours ago












  • 9





    You must ask for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps if you find out beforehand eg from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not.

    – Traveller
    15 hours ago






  • 3





    @Traveller - Can you make that an Answer? The two answers (so far) require you to have a smartphone with Internet (or at least pre-downloaded maps that work with GPS) that many travelers may not have (or may not want to pull out their $800+ smart phone in various situations).

    – BruceWayne
    10 hours ago











  • How does asking the price beforehand work in places that use meters? In many areas, the driver legally must charge the metered fare and can’t give you a price.

    – Zach Lipton
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    @ZachLipton it prevents the driver from deliberately taking a roundabout route in order to increase his fare. If he's told you in advance for example the trip will be 10 Euro and he tries to charge you 50 in the end, he's got a problem.

    – jwenting
    5 hours ago











  • in such situation always keep your eye on google map directions, I have faced this kind of issue many time in other country But If we have google map direction started on our mobile then we may ask him to be on proper route and situation can be avoided.

    – Dhaval Solanki
    5 hours ago







9




9





You must ask for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps if you find out beforehand eg from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not.

– Traveller
15 hours ago





You must ask for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps if you find out beforehand eg from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not.

– Traveller
15 hours ago




3




3





@Traveller - Can you make that an Answer? The two answers (so far) require you to have a smartphone with Internet (or at least pre-downloaded maps that work with GPS) that many travelers may not have (or may not want to pull out their $800+ smart phone in various situations).

– BruceWayne
10 hours ago





@Traveller - Can you make that an Answer? The two answers (so far) require you to have a smartphone with Internet (or at least pre-downloaded maps that work with GPS) that many travelers may not have (or may not want to pull out their $800+ smart phone in various situations).

– BruceWayne
10 hours ago













How does asking the price beforehand work in places that use meters? In many areas, the driver legally must charge the metered fare and can’t give you a price.

– Zach Lipton
7 hours ago





How does asking the price beforehand work in places that use meters? In many areas, the driver legally must charge the metered fare and can’t give you a price.

– Zach Lipton
7 hours ago




1




1





@ZachLipton it prevents the driver from deliberately taking a roundabout route in order to increase his fare. If he's told you in advance for example the trip will be 10 Euro and he tries to charge you 50 in the end, he's got a problem.

– jwenting
5 hours ago





@ZachLipton it prevents the driver from deliberately taking a roundabout route in order to increase his fare. If he's told you in advance for example the trip will be 10 Euro and he tries to charge you 50 in the end, he's got a problem.

– jwenting
5 hours ago













in such situation always keep your eye on google map directions, I have faced this kind of issue many time in other country But If we have google map direction started on our mobile then we may ask him to be on proper route and situation can be avoided.

– Dhaval Solanki
5 hours ago





in such situation always keep your eye on google map directions, I have faced this kind of issue many time in other country But If we have google map direction started on our mobile then we may ask him to be on proper route and situation can be avoided.

– Dhaval Solanki
5 hours ago










5 Answers
5






active

oldest

votes


















30














Use an app. Virtually everywhere these days has either Uber/ Lyft/ Grab/ Gojek/ Ola/ Didi/ Yandex/ Careem /local clone ride-sharing service, or an app put out by local taxi companies in an attempt to compete. In Istanbul, at time of writing Uber is in a weird not-quite-legal-or-illegal state, but BiTaksi seems to be the app of choice: http://www.bitaksi.com/en/



With these, you get to input the destination, you're given a price estimate, and you can see the precise routes suggested and taken, all of which make it much harder for the driver to rip you off. And if you suspect something shady happened anyway, if you paid by card, you can dispute with the app and they may refund you.






share|improve this answer
































    11














    Not a complete answer, I admit.



    The advice I was given when visiting Istanbul is that taxi drivers often can't read, so that I should give them both a printout of the address and also a simplified map, showing them which roads I expect them to take to my hotel.



    That the driver can't read roman script could be a charitable explanation of how your driver took you to the wrong place despite you showing him the card.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 2





      This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

      – DaveBoltman
      3 hours ago











    • very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

      – Marcel P.
      1 hour ago






    • 4





      In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

      – Vladimir F
      1 hour ago











    • This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

      – PLL
      55 mins ago


















    10














    If you aren't using a ride-sharing or taxi app, as suggested by jpatokal, use a different app: a mapping app. Enter your destination (make sure it's correct), show the map to the driver and ensure he/she has a shared understanding of where you want to go, and keep an eye on the route. If the driver has a GPS, ask that they use it. Keep in mind that there may be legitimate reasons to use out-of-the way routes, some of which may not be obvious to a visitor, but if you're straight up going to the wrong part of town, ask that the problem be solved immediately. If you're not comfortable with the situation, and the area you area you are in is not immediately unsafe, stop the ride, pay for the services you were given, and get a new ride from another driver.



    Since you're staying at a hotel, this may also be something the hotel staff can help with when you do arrive. They may not want to get involved, and I can certainly understand that, but doormen at nice hotels in countries known for taxi scams will sometimes make it clear to drivers that their guests need to be treated well and help intervene in disputes (of course, in other places, the doormen may conspire with illegal taxis for tips).






    share|improve this answer


















    • 3





      +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

      – jpatokal
      4 hours ago


















    1














    This is actually based on my mother's experience, and not my own.



    Yes, this is a common scam. Despite some answers wanting to be generous and say it's possibly accidental, much of the time it is not.



    If I remember correctly, she told me the way she got around it was by telling the drivers exactly what route she wanted them to take. Even then they would try to add a few streets to it to up the charge. Fortunately for her, once she learned to speak Türkçe more fluently, the drivers started looking at her as a local and not as a tourist which resulted in them being more fair to her as well.



    In fact, you'll find a lot of places in Istanbul have a "Local's" and a "Tourist's" price. You can easily save yourself quite a few Lira even on a cup of tea just by learning to be conversational in the Turkish language and asking if the price they are giving you is really the price they would charge someone from the area. Nowadays, my mother is pretty much just accepted as Turkish whenever she goes over there. These scams really just rely on your ability to call them out. If they know you know what they are doing, they won't be so quick to try and scam you.



    The problem is, not everybody can learn a new language, especially if they only plan on going to the country once or twice. If you're already there, this will not help you aside from "Tell them your preferred route." It's honestly the best and only way you can do so without basically scaring them into thinking you're a local.



    Also, never hop into a gypsy cab in Istanbul. EVER. Only use an official taxi or a trusted ride-sharing service like Uber or Lyft. (If you do take Uber or Lyft, double and triple check that the driver and vehicle you get match what the app says or refuse the ride, take a photo of the vehicle, and tell the app to send you somebody else, requesting a refund for any cancellation fees since it's not your fault the information didn't match.) Do not EVER take a ride in a taxi that 1) isn't yellow, 2) lacks the "taksi" sign on the roof, 3) doesn't display its associated company on itself, and/or 4) lacks a functioning meter. If even ONE of those factors isn't accounted for, get out of the vehicle and flag down another cab. At best, you will get ripped off by that cab. At worst... you've heard the stories of the dangers of hitchhiking. Be smart, stay safe.






    share|improve this answer








    New contributor




    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
    Check out our Code of Conduct.



























      0














      This has happened to me many times in Cuba where it’s accepted practice to overcharge tourists, especially if you don’t use a licensed taxi (which, of course, doesn’t remove the risk that the driver will take the scenic rather than direct route). None of the Internet-based suggested answers really work in countries like Cuba where online connection is difficult/unreliable/expensive.



      I’ve learnt to deal with this situation by always asking for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps to know how to ask ‘how much to XYZ’ in the local language and to find out beforehand from a reliable source eg internet search before you travel, or from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not before you take the ride. Even licensed taxis will inflate the price if they think they can get away with it eg I was quoted 120cuc for an airport taxi on my last trip but I know the norm is 90-100, which the driver agreed to when he realised I’m not quite as daft as I might look.





      share






















        Your Answer








        StackExchange.ready(function()
        var channelOptions =
        tags: "".split(" "),
        id: "273"
        ;
        initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

        StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
        // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
        if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
        StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
        createEditor();
        );

        else
        createEditor();

        );

        function createEditor()
        StackExchange.prepareEditor(
        heartbeatType: 'answer',
        autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
        convertImagesToLinks: false,
        noModals: true,
        showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
        reputationToPostImages: null,
        bindNavPrevention: true,
        postfix: "",
        imageUploader:
        brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
        contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
        allowUrls: true
        ,
        noCode: true, onDemand: true,
        discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
        ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
        );



        );













        draft saved

        draft discarded


















        StackExchange.ready(
        function ()
        StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2ftravel.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f133874%2fhow-to-deal-with-taxi-scam-when-on-vacation%23new-answer', 'question_page');

        );

        Post as a guest















        Required, but never shown

























        5 Answers
        5






        active

        oldest

        votes








        5 Answers
        5






        active

        oldest

        votes









        active

        oldest

        votes






        active

        oldest

        votes









        30














        Use an app. Virtually everywhere these days has either Uber/ Lyft/ Grab/ Gojek/ Ola/ Didi/ Yandex/ Careem /local clone ride-sharing service, or an app put out by local taxi companies in an attempt to compete. In Istanbul, at time of writing Uber is in a weird not-quite-legal-or-illegal state, but BiTaksi seems to be the app of choice: http://www.bitaksi.com/en/



        With these, you get to input the destination, you're given a price estimate, and you can see the precise routes suggested and taken, all of which make it much harder for the driver to rip you off. And if you suspect something shady happened anyway, if you paid by card, you can dispute with the app and they may refund you.






        share|improve this answer





























          30














          Use an app. Virtually everywhere these days has either Uber/ Lyft/ Grab/ Gojek/ Ola/ Didi/ Yandex/ Careem /local clone ride-sharing service, or an app put out by local taxi companies in an attempt to compete. In Istanbul, at time of writing Uber is in a weird not-quite-legal-or-illegal state, but BiTaksi seems to be the app of choice: http://www.bitaksi.com/en/



          With these, you get to input the destination, you're given a price estimate, and you can see the precise routes suggested and taken, all of which make it much harder for the driver to rip you off. And if you suspect something shady happened anyway, if you paid by card, you can dispute with the app and they may refund you.






          share|improve this answer



























            30












            30








            30







            Use an app. Virtually everywhere these days has either Uber/ Lyft/ Grab/ Gojek/ Ola/ Didi/ Yandex/ Careem /local clone ride-sharing service, or an app put out by local taxi companies in an attempt to compete. In Istanbul, at time of writing Uber is in a weird not-quite-legal-or-illegal state, but BiTaksi seems to be the app of choice: http://www.bitaksi.com/en/



            With these, you get to input the destination, you're given a price estimate, and you can see the precise routes suggested and taken, all of which make it much harder for the driver to rip you off. And if you suspect something shady happened anyway, if you paid by card, you can dispute with the app and they may refund you.






            share|improve this answer















            Use an app. Virtually everywhere these days has either Uber/ Lyft/ Grab/ Gojek/ Ola/ Didi/ Yandex/ Careem /local clone ride-sharing service, or an app put out by local taxi companies in an attempt to compete. In Istanbul, at time of writing Uber is in a weird not-quite-legal-or-illegal state, but BiTaksi seems to be the app of choice: http://www.bitaksi.com/en/



            With these, you get to input the destination, you're given a price estimate, and you can see the precise routes suggested and taken, all of which make it much harder for the driver to rip you off. And if you suspect something shady happened anyway, if you paid by card, you can dispute with the app and they may refund you.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited 52 mins ago

























            answered 15 hours ago









            jpatokaljpatokal

            116k18367527




            116k18367527























                11














                Not a complete answer, I admit.



                The advice I was given when visiting Istanbul is that taxi drivers often can't read, so that I should give them both a printout of the address and also a simplified map, showing them which roads I expect them to take to my hotel.



                That the driver can't read roman script could be a charitable explanation of how your driver took you to the wrong place despite you showing him the card.






                share|improve this answer


















                • 2





                  This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

                  – DaveBoltman
                  3 hours ago











                • very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

                  – Marcel P.
                  1 hour ago






                • 4





                  In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

                  – Vladimir F
                  1 hour ago











                • This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

                  – PLL
                  55 mins ago















                11














                Not a complete answer, I admit.



                The advice I was given when visiting Istanbul is that taxi drivers often can't read, so that I should give them both a printout of the address and also a simplified map, showing them which roads I expect them to take to my hotel.



                That the driver can't read roman script could be a charitable explanation of how your driver took you to the wrong place despite you showing him the card.






                share|improve this answer


















                • 2





                  This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

                  – DaveBoltman
                  3 hours ago











                • very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

                  – Marcel P.
                  1 hour ago






                • 4





                  In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

                  – Vladimir F
                  1 hour ago











                • This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

                  – PLL
                  55 mins ago













                11












                11








                11







                Not a complete answer, I admit.



                The advice I was given when visiting Istanbul is that taxi drivers often can't read, so that I should give them both a printout of the address and also a simplified map, showing them which roads I expect them to take to my hotel.



                That the driver can't read roman script could be a charitable explanation of how your driver took you to the wrong place despite you showing him the card.






                share|improve this answer













                Not a complete answer, I admit.



                The advice I was given when visiting Istanbul is that taxi drivers often can't read, so that I should give them both a printout of the address and also a simplified map, showing them which roads I expect them to take to my hotel.



                That the driver can't read roman script could be a charitable explanation of how your driver took you to the wrong place despite you showing him the card.







                share|improve this answer












                share|improve this answer



                share|improve this answer










                answered 3 hours ago









                Douglas HeldDouglas Held

                891515




                891515







                • 2





                  This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

                  – DaveBoltman
                  3 hours ago











                • very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

                  – Marcel P.
                  1 hour ago






                • 4





                  In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

                  – Vladimir F
                  1 hour ago











                • This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

                  – PLL
                  55 mins ago












                • 2





                  This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

                  – DaveBoltman
                  3 hours ago











                • very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

                  – Marcel P.
                  1 hour ago






                • 4





                  In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

                  – Vladimir F
                  1 hour ago











                • This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

                  – PLL
                  55 mins ago







                2




                2





                This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

                – DaveBoltman
                3 hours ago





                This is a good answer based on actual experience, rather than theory of how it might work. Have my vote.

                – DaveBoltman
                3 hours ago













                very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

                – Marcel P.
                1 hour ago





                very good answer, specially explaining a local situation...

                – Marcel P.
                1 hour ago




                4




                4





                In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

                – Vladimir F
                1 hour ago





                In Istanbul, can't read? This is Europe, not nomads in a desert. Turkey's literacy is above 95% and most illiterate people are in less developed parts in the East, not in Istanbul.

                – Vladimir F
                1 hour ago













                This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

                – PLL
                55 mins ago





                This suggestion may well work, since it makes it very difficult for the driver to claim they misunderstood you, but the explanation is inaccurate to the point of offensiveness.

                – PLL
                55 mins ago











                10














                If you aren't using a ride-sharing or taxi app, as suggested by jpatokal, use a different app: a mapping app. Enter your destination (make sure it's correct), show the map to the driver and ensure he/she has a shared understanding of where you want to go, and keep an eye on the route. If the driver has a GPS, ask that they use it. Keep in mind that there may be legitimate reasons to use out-of-the way routes, some of which may not be obvious to a visitor, but if you're straight up going to the wrong part of town, ask that the problem be solved immediately. If you're not comfortable with the situation, and the area you area you are in is not immediately unsafe, stop the ride, pay for the services you were given, and get a new ride from another driver.



                Since you're staying at a hotel, this may also be something the hotel staff can help with when you do arrive. They may not want to get involved, and I can certainly understand that, but doormen at nice hotels in countries known for taxi scams will sometimes make it clear to drivers that their guests need to be treated well and help intervene in disputes (of course, in other places, the doormen may conspire with illegal taxis for tips).






                share|improve this answer


















                • 3





                  +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

                  – jpatokal
                  4 hours ago















                10














                If you aren't using a ride-sharing or taxi app, as suggested by jpatokal, use a different app: a mapping app. Enter your destination (make sure it's correct), show the map to the driver and ensure he/she has a shared understanding of where you want to go, and keep an eye on the route. If the driver has a GPS, ask that they use it. Keep in mind that there may be legitimate reasons to use out-of-the way routes, some of which may not be obvious to a visitor, but if you're straight up going to the wrong part of town, ask that the problem be solved immediately. If you're not comfortable with the situation, and the area you area you are in is not immediately unsafe, stop the ride, pay for the services you were given, and get a new ride from another driver.



                Since you're staying at a hotel, this may also be something the hotel staff can help with when you do arrive. They may not want to get involved, and I can certainly understand that, but doormen at nice hotels in countries known for taxi scams will sometimes make it clear to drivers that their guests need to be treated well and help intervene in disputes (of course, in other places, the doormen may conspire with illegal taxis for tips).






                share|improve this answer


















                • 3





                  +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

                  – jpatokal
                  4 hours ago













                10












                10








                10







                If you aren't using a ride-sharing or taxi app, as suggested by jpatokal, use a different app: a mapping app. Enter your destination (make sure it's correct), show the map to the driver and ensure he/she has a shared understanding of where you want to go, and keep an eye on the route. If the driver has a GPS, ask that they use it. Keep in mind that there may be legitimate reasons to use out-of-the way routes, some of which may not be obvious to a visitor, but if you're straight up going to the wrong part of town, ask that the problem be solved immediately. If you're not comfortable with the situation, and the area you area you are in is not immediately unsafe, stop the ride, pay for the services you were given, and get a new ride from another driver.



                Since you're staying at a hotel, this may also be something the hotel staff can help with when you do arrive. They may not want to get involved, and I can certainly understand that, but doormen at nice hotels in countries known for taxi scams will sometimes make it clear to drivers that their guests need to be treated well and help intervene in disputes (of course, in other places, the doormen may conspire with illegal taxis for tips).






                share|improve this answer













                If you aren't using a ride-sharing or taxi app, as suggested by jpatokal, use a different app: a mapping app. Enter your destination (make sure it's correct), show the map to the driver and ensure he/she has a shared understanding of where you want to go, and keep an eye on the route. If the driver has a GPS, ask that they use it. Keep in mind that there may be legitimate reasons to use out-of-the way routes, some of which may not be obvious to a visitor, but if you're straight up going to the wrong part of town, ask that the problem be solved immediately. If you're not comfortable with the situation, and the area you area you are in is not immediately unsafe, stop the ride, pay for the services you were given, and get a new ride from another driver.



                Since you're staying at a hotel, this may also be something the hotel staff can help with when you do arrive. They may not want to get involved, and I can certainly understand that, but doormen at nice hotels in countries known for taxi scams will sometimes make it clear to drivers that their guests need to be treated well and help intervene in disputes (of course, in other places, the doormen may conspire with illegal taxis for tips).







                share|improve this answer












                share|improve this answer



                share|improve this answer










                answered 13 hours ago









                Zach LiptonZach Lipton

                61.2k11187246




                61.2k11187246







                • 3





                  +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

                  – jpatokal
                  4 hours ago












                • 3





                  +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

                  – jpatokal
                  4 hours ago







                3




                3





                +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

                – jpatokal
                4 hours ago





                +1 for the rest of the advice, but hotel doormen can be a bit of a gamble. Some are good, meaning they'll hail cabs off the street and translate, but some are in cahoots with the types of cabbies who hang around expensive hotels and will take you for a drive. I once ended up with a cab in Delhi whose meter was spinning at approx 7x the real speed this way...

                – jpatokal
                4 hours ago











                1














                This is actually based on my mother's experience, and not my own.



                Yes, this is a common scam. Despite some answers wanting to be generous and say it's possibly accidental, much of the time it is not.



                If I remember correctly, she told me the way she got around it was by telling the drivers exactly what route she wanted them to take. Even then they would try to add a few streets to it to up the charge. Fortunately for her, once she learned to speak Türkçe more fluently, the drivers started looking at her as a local and not as a tourist which resulted in them being more fair to her as well.



                In fact, you'll find a lot of places in Istanbul have a "Local's" and a "Tourist's" price. You can easily save yourself quite a few Lira even on a cup of tea just by learning to be conversational in the Turkish language and asking if the price they are giving you is really the price they would charge someone from the area. Nowadays, my mother is pretty much just accepted as Turkish whenever she goes over there. These scams really just rely on your ability to call them out. If they know you know what they are doing, they won't be so quick to try and scam you.



                The problem is, not everybody can learn a new language, especially if they only plan on going to the country once or twice. If you're already there, this will not help you aside from "Tell them your preferred route." It's honestly the best and only way you can do so without basically scaring them into thinking you're a local.



                Also, never hop into a gypsy cab in Istanbul. EVER. Only use an official taxi or a trusted ride-sharing service like Uber or Lyft. (If you do take Uber or Lyft, double and triple check that the driver and vehicle you get match what the app says or refuse the ride, take a photo of the vehicle, and tell the app to send you somebody else, requesting a refund for any cancellation fees since it's not your fault the information didn't match.) Do not EVER take a ride in a taxi that 1) isn't yellow, 2) lacks the "taksi" sign on the roof, 3) doesn't display its associated company on itself, and/or 4) lacks a functioning meter. If even ONE of those factors isn't accounted for, get out of the vehicle and flag down another cab. At best, you will get ripped off by that cab. At worst... you've heard the stories of the dangers of hitchhiking. Be smart, stay safe.






                share|improve this answer








                New contributor




                Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                Check out our Code of Conduct.
























                  1














                  This is actually based on my mother's experience, and not my own.



                  Yes, this is a common scam. Despite some answers wanting to be generous and say it's possibly accidental, much of the time it is not.



                  If I remember correctly, she told me the way she got around it was by telling the drivers exactly what route she wanted them to take. Even then they would try to add a few streets to it to up the charge. Fortunately for her, once she learned to speak Türkçe more fluently, the drivers started looking at her as a local and not as a tourist which resulted in them being more fair to her as well.



                  In fact, you'll find a lot of places in Istanbul have a "Local's" and a "Tourist's" price. You can easily save yourself quite a few Lira even on a cup of tea just by learning to be conversational in the Turkish language and asking if the price they are giving you is really the price they would charge someone from the area. Nowadays, my mother is pretty much just accepted as Turkish whenever she goes over there. These scams really just rely on your ability to call them out. If they know you know what they are doing, they won't be so quick to try and scam you.



                  The problem is, not everybody can learn a new language, especially if they only plan on going to the country once or twice. If you're already there, this will not help you aside from "Tell them your preferred route." It's honestly the best and only way you can do so without basically scaring them into thinking you're a local.



                  Also, never hop into a gypsy cab in Istanbul. EVER. Only use an official taxi or a trusted ride-sharing service like Uber or Lyft. (If you do take Uber or Lyft, double and triple check that the driver and vehicle you get match what the app says or refuse the ride, take a photo of the vehicle, and tell the app to send you somebody else, requesting a refund for any cancellation fees since it's not your fault the information didn't match.) Do not EVER take a ride in a taxi that 1) isn't yellow, 2) lacks the "taksi" sign on the roof, 3) doesn't display its associated company on itself, and/or 4) lacks a functioning meter. If even ONE of those factors isn't accounted for, get out of the vehicle and flag down another cab. At best, you will get ripped off by that cab. At worst... you've heard the stories of the dangers of hitchhiking. Be smart, stay safe.






                  share|improve this answer








                  New contributor




                  Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                  Check out our Code of Conduct.






















                    1












                    1








                    1







                    This is actually based on my mother's experience, and not my own.



                    Yes, this is a common scam. Despite some answers wanting to be generous and say it's possibly accidental, much of the time it is not.



                    If I remember correctly, she told me the way she got around it was by telling the drivers exactly what route she wanted them to take. Even then they would try to add a few streets to it to up the charge. Fortunately for her, once she learned to speak Türkçe more fluently, the drivers started looking at her as a local and not as a tourist which resulted in them being more fair to her as well.



                    In fact, you'll find a lot of places in Istanbul have a "Local's" and a "Tourist's" price. You can easily save yourself quite a few Lira even on a cup of tea just by learning to be conversational in the Turkish language and asking if the price they are giving you is really the price they would charge someone from the area. Nowadays, my mother is pretty much just accepted as Turkish whenever she goes over there. These scams really just rely on your ability to call them out. If they know you know what they are doing, they won't be so quick to try and scam you.



                    The problem is, not everybody can learn a new language, especially if they only plan on going to the country once or twice. If you're already there, this will not help you aside from "Tell them your preferred route." It's honestly the best and only way you can do so without basically scaring them into thinking you're a local.



                    Also, never hop into a gypsy cab in Istanbul. EVER. Only use an official taxi or a trusted ride-sharing service like Uber or Lyft. (If you do take Uber or Lyft, double and triple check that the driver and vehicle you get match what the app says or refuse the ride, take a photo of the vehicle, and tell the app to send you somebody else, requesting a refund for any cancellation fees since it's not your fault the information didn't match.) Do not EVER take a ride in a taxi that 1) isn't yellow, 2) lacks the "taksi" sign on the roof, 3) doesn't display its associated company on itself, and/or 4) lacks a functioning meter. If even ONE of those factors isn't accounted for, get out of the vehicle and flag down another cab. At best, you will get ripped off by that cab. At worst... you've heard the stories of the dangers of hitchhiking. Be smart, stay safe.






                    share|improve this answer








                    New contributor




                    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                    Check out our Code of Conduct.










                    This is actually based on my mother's experience, and not my own.



                    Yes, this is a common scam. Despite some answers wanting to be generous and say it's possibly accidental, much of the time it is not.



                    If I remember correctly, she told me the way she got around it was by telling the drivers exactly what route she wanted them to take. Even then they would try to add a few streets to it to up the charge. Fortunately for her, once she learned to speak Türkçe more fluently, the drivers started looking at her as a local and not as a tourist which resulted in them being more fair to her as well.



                    In fact, you'll find a lot of places in Istanbul have a "Local's" and a "Tourist's" price. You can easily save yourself quite a few Lira even on a cup of tea just by learning to be conversational in the Turkish language and asking if the price they are giving you is really the price they would charge someone from the area. Nowadays, my mother is pretty much just accepted as Turkish whenever she goes over there. These scams really just rely on your ability to call them out. If they know you know what they are doing, they won't be so quick to try and scam you.



                    The problem is, not everybody can learn a new language, especially if they only plan on going to the country once or twice. If you're already there, this will not help you aside from "Tell them your preferred route." It's honestly the best and only way you can do so without basically scaring them into thinking you're a local.



                    Also, never hop into a gypsy cab in Istanbul. EVER. Only use an official taxi or a trusted ride-sharing service like Uber or Lyft. (If you do take Uber or Lyft, double and triple check that the driver and vehicle you get match what the app says or refuse the ride, take a photo of the vehicle, and tell the app to send you somebody else, requesting a refund for any cancellation fees since it's not your fault the information didn't match.) Do not EVER take a ride in a taxi that 1) isn't yellow, 2) lacks the "taksi" sign on the roof, 3) doesn't display its associated company on itself, and/or 4) lacks a functioning meter. If even ONE of those factors isn't accounted for, get out of the vehicle and flag down another cab. At best, you will get ripped off by that cab. At worst... you've heard the stories of the dangers of hitchhiking. Be smart, stay safe.







                    share|improve this answer








                    New contributor




                    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                    Check out our Code of Conduct.









                    share|improve this answer



                    share|improve this answer






                    New contributor




                    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                    Check out our Code of Conduct.









                    answered 28 mins ago









                    Sora TamashiiSora Tamashii

                    1114




                    1114




                    New contributor




                    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                    Check out our Code of Conduct.





                    New contributor





                    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                    Check out our Code of Conduct.






                    Sora Tamashii is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
                    Check out our Code of Conduct.





















                        0














                        This has happened to me many times in Cuba where it’s accepted practice to overcharge tourists, especially if you don’t use a licensed taxi (which, of course, doesn’t remove the risk that the driver will take the scenic rather than direct route). None of the Internet-based suggested answers really work in countries like Cuba where online connection is difficult/unreliable/expensive.



                        I’ve learnt to deal with this situation by always asking for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps to know how to ask ‘how much to XYZ’ in the local language and to find out beforehand from a reliable source eg internet search before you travel, or from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not before you take the ride. Even licensed taxis will inflate the price if they think they can get away with it eg I was quoted 120cuc for an airport taxi on my last trip but I know the norm is 90-100, which the driver agreed to when he realised I’m not quite as daft as I might look.





                        share



























                          0














                          This has happened to me many times in Cuba where it’s accepted practice to overcharge tourists, especially if you don’t use a licensed taxi (which, of course, doesn’t remove the risk that the driver will take the scenic rather than direct route). None of the Internet-based suggested answers really work in countries like Cuba where online connection is difficult/unreliable/expensive.



                          I’ve learnt to deal with this situation by always asking for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps to know how to ask ‘how much to XYZ’ in the local language and to find out beforehand from a reliable source eg internet search before you travel, or from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not before you take the ride. Even licensed taxis will inflate the price if they think they can get away with it eg I was quoted 120cuc for an airport taxi on my last trip but I know the norm is 90-100, which the driver agreed to when he realised I’m not quite as daft as I might look.





                          share

























                            0












                            0








                            0







                            This has happened to me many times in Cuba where it’s accepted practice to overcharge tourists, especially if you don’t use a licensed taxi (which, of course, doesn’t remove the risk that the driver will take the scenic rather than direct route). None of the Internet-based suggested answers really work in countries like Cuba where online connection is difficult/unreliable/expensive.



                            I’ve learnt to deal with this situation by always asking for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps to know how to ask ‘how much to XYZ’ in the local language and to find out beforehand from a reliable source eg internet search before you travel, or from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not before you take the ride. Even licensed taxis will inflate the price if they think they can get away with it eg I was quoted 120cuc for an airport taxi on my last trip but I know the norm is 90-100, which the driver agreed to when he realised I’m not quite as daft as I might look.





                            share













                            This has happened to me many times in Cuba where it’s accepted practice to overcharge tourists, especially if you don’t use a licensed taxi (which, of course, doesn’t remove the risk that the driver will take the scenic rather than direct route). None of the Internet-based suggested answers really work in countries like Cuba where online connection is difficult/unreliable/expensive.



                            I’ve learnt to deal with this situation by always asking for the price upfront, and before you get into the taxi. It also helps to know how to ask ‘how much to XYZ’ in the local language and to find out beforehand from a reliable source eg internet search before you travel, or from the hotel where you’re staying, how much the taxi should cost, so that you know if you’re being over-charged and can decide whether you want to pay it or not before you take the ride. Even licensed taxis will inflate the price if they think they can get away with it eg I was quoted 120cuc for an airport taxi on my last trip but I know the norm is 90-100, which the driver agreed to when he realised I’m not quite as daft as I might look.






                            share











                            share


                            share










                            answered 2 mins ago









                            TravellerTraveller

                            9,60811742




                            9,60811742



























                                draft saved

                                draft discarded
















































                                Thanks for contributing an answer to Travel Stack Exchange!


                                • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                                But avoid


                                • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                                • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

                                To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                                draft saved


                                draft discarded














                                StackExchange.ready(
                                function ()
                                StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2ftravel.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f133874%2fhow-to-deal-with-taxi-scam-when-on-vacation%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                                );

                                Post as a guest















                                Required, but never shown





















































                                Required, but never shown














                                Required, but never shown












                                Required, but never shown







                                Required, but never shown

































                                Required, but never shown














                                Required, but never shown












                                Required, but never shown







                                Required, but never shown







                                Popular posts from this blog

                                Is flight data recorder erased after every flight?When are black boxes used?What protects the location beacon (pinger) of a flight data recorder?Is there anywhere I can pick up raw flight data recorder information?Who legally owns the Flight Data Recorder?Constructing flight recorder dataWhy are FDRs and CVRs still two separate physical devices?What are the data elements shown on the GE235 flight data recorder (FDR) plot?Are CVR and FDR reset after every flight?What is the format of data stored by a Flight Data Recorder?How much data is stored in the flight data recorder per hour in a typical flight of an A380?Is a smart flight data recorder possible?

                                Which is better: GPT or RelGAN for text generation?2019 Community Moderator ElectionWhat is the difference between TextGAN and LM for text generation?GANs (generative adversarial networks) possible for text as well?Generator loss not decreasing- text to image synthesisChoosing a right algorithm for template-based text generationHow should I format input and output for text generation with LSTMsGumbel Softmax vs Vanilla Softmax for GAN trainingWhich neural network to choose for classification from text/speech?NLP text autoencoder that generates text in poetic meterWhat is the interpretation of the expectation notation in the GAN formulation?What is the difference between TextGAN and LM for text generation?How to prepare the data for text generation task

                                Is there a general name for the setup in which payoffs are not known exactly but players try to influence each other's perception of the payoffs?Osborne, Nash equilibria and the correctness of beliefsIs there a name for this family of games (Binomial games?)?Perfect Bayesian EquilibriumCalculating mixed strategy equilibrium in battle of sexesPure Strategy SPNEIs there a commitment mechanism which allows players to achieve pareto optimal solutions?Extensive Form GamesAn $n$-player prisoner's dilemma where a coalition of 2 players is better off defectingTit-For-Stat Strategy Best RepliesPotential solutions of the $n$-player Prisoner's Dilemma