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Difference between cluster centers and means


The implementation of overlapping clustering (NEO-K-Means)k-means python implementation: unclearwrong resultConfused about how to apply KMeans on my a dataset with features extractedExplaination or Description of clusters after clusteringHow to use k-means outputs (extracted features) as SVM inputs?How to get data back into two separate audio files after successfully applying kmeans clustering on an audio file?Finding best cluster after running K-Means clusteringHow to create a simple K-Means Cluster Algorithm in Python?Clustering 1-d array with constraints?













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The following is the output of the cluster centers I got from a cluster model (kmeans - 6 clusters)




3.371069, 3.920354, 3.629747, 3.700000, 3.988506, 3.740385




However, after segmenting the data into the 6 clusters and taking the average of the data for each of the 6 clusters, I get a different set of numbers than the above.




3.7, 3.6, 3.6, 3.8, 4.2, 3.3




My question is are cluster centers different than means?



Why am I getting different values?










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    The following is the output of the cluster centers I got from a cluster model (kmeans - 6 clusters)




    3.371069, 3.920354, 3.629747, 3.700000, 3.988506, 3.740385




    However, after segmenting the data into the 6 clusters and taking the average of the data for each of the 6 clusters, I get a different set of numbers than the above.




    3.7, 3.6, 3.6, 3.8, 4.2, 3.3




    My question is are cluster centers different than means?



    Why am I getting different values?










    share|improve this question









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      The following is the output of the cluster centers I got from a cluster model (kmeans - 6 clusters)




      3.371069, 3.920354, 3.629747, 3.700000, 3.988506, 3.740385




      However, after segmenting the data into the 6 clusters and taking the average of the data for each of the 6 clusters, I get a different set of numbers than the above.




      3.7, 3.6, 3.6, 3.8, 4.2, 3.3




      My question is are cluster centers different than means?



      Why am I getting different values?










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      The following is the output of the cluster centers I got from a cluster model (kmeans - 6 clusters)




      3.371069, 3.920354, 3.629747, 3.700000, 3.988506, 3.740385




      However, after segmenting the data into the 6 clusters and taking the average of the data for each of the 6 clusters, I get a different set of numbers than the above.




      3.7, 3.6, 3.6, 3.8, 4.2, 3.3




      My question is are cluster centers different than means?



      Why am I getting different values?







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          They are the same.



          When you run K-Means, the cluster center changes every iteration. In each iteration, cluster center or mean is given for that specific cluster. In the next iteration, a new cluster may be formed. The cluster centers need to be calculated again.



          When the algorithm converges, you get the absolute means of the clusters formed. For most intents and purposes, they are the same.






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          They are the same.



          When you run K-Means, the cluster center changes every iteration. In each iteration, cluster center or mean is given for that specific cluster. In the next iteration, a new cluster may be formed. The cluster centers need to be calculated again.



          When the algorithm converges, you get the absolute means of the clusters formed. For most intents and purposes, they are the same.






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          They are the same.



          When you run K-Means, the cluster center changes every iteration. In each iteration, cluster center or mean is given for that specific cluster. In the next iteration, a new cluster may be formed. The cluster centers need to be calculated again.



          When the algorithm converges, you get the absolute means of the clusters formed. For most intents and purposes, they are the same.






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          They are the same.



          When you run K-Means, the cluster center changes every iteration. In each iteration, cluster center or mean is given for that specific cluster. In the next iteration, a new cluster may be formed. The cluster centers need to be calculated again.



          When the algorithm converges, you get the absolute means of the clusters formed. For most intents and purposes, they are the same.






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          They are the same.



          When you run K-Means, the cluster center changes every iteration. In each iteration, cluster center or mean is given for that specific cluster. In the next iteration, a new cluster may be formed. The cluster centers need to be calculated again.



          When the algorithm converges, you get the absolute means of the clusters formed. For most intents and purposes, they are the same.







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