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How can Y-dwarf stars have such a low temperature?Dark Matter 'Stars'Dark matter and black holeDid dark matter cause the formation of the Solar System?Are black holes in a binary system with white holes, and are they both wormholes?Do clouds of dark matter cool and contract?Direct Dark Matter Detection: relative velocity between WIMPs & NucleiWhen and where was WIMP dark matter formed?Overlap between experimental searches for axion and WIMP dark matterWhat is the theoretical lower mass limit for a white dwarf?













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Today we understand that a black dwarf star represents a hypothetical star that is the result of the complete consumption of the energy of a white dwarf which is the remnant of a star of little or half mass (1 solar mass), once all its hydrogen has been consumed or expelled. This rest is a dense piece of "degenerated matter" that slowly cools and crystallizes by emission of heat radiation. So, if these objects (not yet observed) do not emit light but interact gravitationally with the surrounding matter, we can not say that dark matter may be black dwarf stars that are contained within the galactic halo? To discard weak interaction particles such as WIMP's or its opposite, the MACHO's ("massive compact halo objects")










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    Today we understand that a black dwarf star represents a hypothetical star that is the result of the complete consumption of the energy of a white dwarf which is the remnant of a star of little or half mass (1 solar mass), once all its hydrogen has been consumed or expelled. This rest is a dense piece of "degenerated matter" that slowly cools and crystallizes by emission of heat radiation. So, if these objects (not yet observed) do not emit light but interact gravitationally with the surrounding matter, we can not say that dark matter may be black dwarf stars that are contained within the galactic halo? To discard weak interaction particles such as WIMP's or its opposite, the MACHO's ("massive compact halo objects")










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      Today we understand that a black dwarf star represents a hypothetical star that is the result of the complete consumption of the energy of a white dwarf which is the remnant of a star of little or half mass (1 solar mass), once all its hydrogen has been consumed or expelled. This rest is a dense piece of "degenerated matter" that slowly cools and crystallizes by emission of heat radiation. So, if these objects (not yet observed) do not emit light but interact gravitationally with the surrounding matter, we can not say that dark matter may be black dwarf stars that are contained within the galactic halo? To discard weak interaction particles such as WIMP's or its opposite, the MACHO's ("massive compact halo objects")










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      Today we understand that a black dwarf star represents a hypothetical star that is the result of the complete consumption of the energy of a white dwarf which is the remnant of a star of little or half mass (1 solar mass), once all its hydrogen has been consumed or expelled. This rest is a dense piece of "degenerated matter" that slowly cools and crystallizes by emission of heat radiation. So, if these objects (not yet observed) do not emit light but interact gravitationally with the surrounding matter, we can not say that dark matter may be black dwarf stars that are contained within the galactic halo? To discard weak interaction particles such as WIMP's or its opposite, the MACHO's ("massive compact halo objects")







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          1. As you correctly point out, black dwarfs are "hypothetical objects". There has been insufficient time since the first stars were born for white dwarfs to cool below about 3000 K. i.e. Whilst there are faint white dwarfs with luminosities below a few $10^-5 L_odot$, they are not invisible.


          2. Microlensing experiments rule out "massive compact halo objects", like cold white dwarfs or black holes as a significant contributor to dark matter.


          3. Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic and to interact very weakly with normal matter in order to form the structures that we see today in the universe; and to reconcile the inferred primordial abundances of helium, deuterium and lithium with the total amount of matter deduced to be in galaxies and clusters of galaxies. Cold white dwarfs are baryonic, so cannot represent the bulk of dark matter.






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            Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
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            @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
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            @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
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            As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
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            And the big bang model is not a "theory".
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          Three reasons:



          1. As you correctly point out, black dwarfs are "hypothetical objects". There has been insufficient time since the first stars were born for white dwarfs to cool below about 3000 K. i.e. Whilst there are faint white dwarfs with luminosities below a few $10^-5 L_odot$, they are not invisible.


          2. Microlensing experiments rule out "massive compact halo objects", like cold white dwarfs or black holes as a significant contributor to dark matter.


          3. Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic and to interact very weakly with normal matter in order to form the structures that we see today in the universe; and to reconcile the inferred primordial abundances of helium, deuterium and lithium with the total amount of matter deduced to be in galaxies and clusters of galaxies. Cold white dwarfs are baryonic, so cannot represent the bulk of dark matter.






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            Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
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            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 8 at 3:04











          • $begingroup$
            @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 8 at 7:06










          • $begingroup$
            @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 13 at 23:30










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            As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:35










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            And the big bang model is not a "theory".
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:44















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          $begingroup$

          Three reasons:



          1. As you correctly point out, black dwarfs are "hypothetical objects". There has been insufficient time since the first stars were born for white dwarfs to cool below about 3000 K. i.e. Whilst there are faint white dwarfs with luminosities below a few $10^-5 L_odot$, they are not invisible.


          2. Microlensing experiments rule out "massive compact halo objects", like cold white dwarfs or black holes as a significant contributor to dark matter.


          3. Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic and to interact very weakly with normal matter in order to form the structures that we see today in the universe; and to reconcile the inferred primordial abundances of helium, deuterium and lithium with the total amount of matter deduced to be in galaxies and clusters of galaxies. Cold white dwarfs are baryonic, so cannot represent the bulk of dark matter.






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            $begingroup$
            Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 8 at 3:04











          • $begingroup$
            @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 8 at 7:06










          • $begingroup$
            @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 13 at 23:30










          • $begingroup$
            As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:35










          • $begingroup$
            And the big bang model is not a "theory".
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:44













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          Three reasons:



          1. As you correctly point out, black dwarfs are "hypothetical objects". There has been insufficient time since the first stars were born for white dwarfs to cool below about 3000 K. i.e. Whilst there are faint white dwarfs with luminosities below a few $10^-5 L_odot$, they are not invisible.


          2. Microlensing experiments rule out "massive compact halo objects", like cold white dwarfs or black holes as a significant contributor to dark matter.


          3. Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic and to interact very weakly with normal matter in order to form the structures that we see today in the universe; and to reconcile the inferred primordial abundances of helium, deuterium and lithium with the total amount of matter deduced to be in galaxies and clusters of galaxies. Cold white dwarfs are baryonic, so cannot represent the bulk of dark matter.






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          Three reasons:



          1. As you correctly point out, black dwarfs are "hypothetical objects". There has been insufficient time since the first stars were born for white dwarfs to cool below about 3000 K. i.e. Whilst there are faint white dwarfs with luminosities below a few $10^-5 L_odot$, they are not invisible.


          2. Microlensing experiments rule out "massive compact halo objects", like cold white dwarfs or black holes as a significant contributor to dark matter.


          3. Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic and to interact very weakly with normal matter in order to form the structures that we see today in the universe; and to reconcile the inferred primordial abundances of helium, deuterium and lithium with the total amount of matter deduced to be in galaxies and clusters of galaxies. Cold white dwarfs are baryonic, so cannot represent the bulk of dark matter.







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          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 8 at 3:04











          • $begingroup$
            @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 8 at 7:06










          • $begingroup$
            @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 13 at 23:30










          • $begingroup$
            As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:35










          • $begingroup$
            And the big bang model is not a "theory".
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:44












          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 8 at 3:04











          • $begingroup$
            @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 8 at 7:06










          • $begingroup$
            @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
            $endgroup$
            – Cinaed Simson
            Apr 13 at 23:30










          • $begingroup$
            As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:35










          • $begingroup$
            And the big bang model is not a "theory".
            $endgroup$
            – Rob Jeffries
            Apr 13 at 23:44







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          $begingroup$
          Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
          $endgroup$
          – Cinaed Simson
          Apr 8 at 3:04





          $begingroup$
          Most of the dark matter needs to be non baryonic in the Big Bang model since the galaxies wouldn't have formed. If one needs to invoke "magic" to get a cosmological model to form galaxies, then model is probably broken.
          $endgroup$
          – Cinaed Simson
          Apr 8 at 3:04













          $begingroup$
          @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
          $endgroup$
          – Rob Jeffries
          Apr 8 at 7:06




          $begingroup$
          @CinaedSimson Indeed the model is/was broken. GR w/out dark matter cannot explain structure formation. Feel free to add your answer.
          $endgroup$
          – Rob Jeffries
          Apr 8 at 7:06












          $begingroup$
          @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
          $endgroup$
          – Cinaed Simson
          Apr 13 at 23:30




          $begingroup$
          @Rob_Jeffries: but when you change the data instead of the theory, isn't that the definition of junk science?
          $endgroup$
          – Cinaed Simson
          Apr 13 at 23:30












          $begingroup$
          As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
          $endgroup$
          – Rob Jeffries
          Apr 13 at 23:35




          $begingroup$
          As I said, feel free to add your answer, if you have one. @CinaedSimson
          $endgroup$
          – Rob Jeffries
          Apr 13 at 23:35












          $begingroup$
          And the big bang model is not a "theory".
          $endgroup$
          – Rob Jeffries
          Apr 13 at 23:44




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