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Manuscript was “unsubmitted” because the manuscript was deposited in Arxiv Preprints
Arxiv rejection of preprintsHow to react to flawed preprints?What can I expect from a publication on arXivShould I change the format of preprint before publishing it as a working paper?Change title to arXiv paperPlagiarism from preprint of paper (from the Arxiv)Updating a paper on arXiv that was accepted by a non-open access journalResubmission of arxiv paper after rejectionI forgot to add preprint submission (BioRxiv) before the actual journal submission, what can I do now?Uploading preprints of old Elsevier papers to arXiv, and updating arXiv preprints by newer versions
One of my manuscripts was "unsubmitted" and potentially rejected by the journal for the reason that it was submitted to a preprint server. Is it normal for the journal to reject a paper that was submitted in a preprint?
paper-submission preprint biology
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
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One of my manuscripts was "unsubmitted" and potentially rejected by the journal for the reason that it was submitted to a preprint server. Is it normal for the journal to reject a paper that was submitted in a preprint?
paper-submission preprint biology
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
3
@TommiBrander Biological science published under De Gruyter. Most of my papers in the field were all submitted to preprint servers before I submit it to formal submission to a journal. This journal is quite weird to unsubmit my MS. Any suggestion how to appeal?
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:22
26
Don't appeal. That just wastes your time. Just find a more reasonable journal.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:01
4
"Normal" depends on the field. Please include that in the question (not just the tags) and, assuming that biology varies in its practices as much as computer science does, you'll probably need to be more specific than that.
– David Richerby
Apr 9 at 11:14
5
@MaartenBuis "Appealing is a waste of time" is reasonable advice if the paper was 'unsubmitted' by an editor. However, if it was done automatically right after submission by the journal editorial staff (I mean, not the academics, the employees), then it would be a good idea to let the editors know that this happened, in case they aren't informed yet.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 9 at 11:39
8
"unsubmitted" is not the same as "rejected because previously published on Arxiv". Please quote exactly what the journal has said.
– EnergyNumbers
Apr 9 at 12:43
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One of my manuscripts was "unsubmitted" and potentially rejected by the journal for the reason that it was submitted to a preprint server. Is it normal for the journal to reject a paper that was submitted in a preprint?
paper-submission preprint biology
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
One of my manuscripts was "unsubmitted" and potentially rejected by the journal for the reason that it was submitted to a preprint server. Is it normal for the journal to reject a paper that was submitted in a preprint?
paper-submission preprint biology
paper-submission preprint biology
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
edited Apr 9 at 10:23
Tommi Brander
5,66921937
5,66921937
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
asked Apr 9 at 10:15
xavierxavier
786423
786423
3
@TommiBrander Biological science published under De Gruyter. Most of my papers in the field were all submitted to preprint servers before I submit it to formal submission to a journal. This journal is quite weird to unsubmit my MS. Any suggestion how to appeal?
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:22
26
Don't appeal. That just wastes your time. Just find a more reasonable journal.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:01
4
"Normal" depends on the field. Please include that in the question (not just the tags) and, assuming that biology varies in its practices as much as computer science does, you'll probably need to be more specific than that.
– David Richerby
Apr 9 at 11:14
5
@MaartenBuis "Appealing is a waste of time" is reasonable advice if the paper was 'unsubmitted' by an editor. However, if it was done automatically right after submission by the journal editorial staff (I mean, not the academics, the employees), then it would be a good idea to let the editors know that this happened, in case they aren't informed yet.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 9 at 11:39
8
"unsubmitted" is not the same as "rejected because previously published on Arxiv". Please quote exactly what the journal has said.
– EnergyNumbers
Apr 9 at 12:43
|
show 3 more comments
3
@TommiBrander Biological science published under De Gruyter. Most of my papers in the field were all submitted to preprint servers before I submit it to formal submission to a journal. This journal is quite weird to unsubmit my MS. Any suggestion how to appeal?
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:22
26
Don't appeal. That just wastes your time. Just find a more reasonable journal.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:01
4
"Normal" depends on the field. Please include that in the question (not just the tags) and, assuming that biology varies in its practices as much as computer science does, you'll probably need to be more specific than that.
– David Richerby
Apr 9 at 11:14
5
@MaartenBuis "Appealing is a waste of time" is reasonable advice if the paper was 'unsubmitted' by an editor. However, if it was done automatically right after submission by the journal editorial staff (I mean, not the academics, the employees), then it would be a good idea to let the editors know that this happened, in case they aren't informed yet.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 9 at 11:39
8
"unsubmitted" is not the same as "rejected because previously published on Arxiv". Please quote exactly what the journal has said.
– EnergyNumbers
Apr 9 at 12:43
3
3
@TommiBrander Biological science published under De Gruyter. Most of my papers in the field were all submitted to preprint servers before I submit it to formal submission to a journal. This journal is quite weird to unsubmit my MS. Any suggestion how to appeal?
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:22
@TommiBrander Biological science published under De Gruyter. Most of my papers in the field were all submitted to preprint servers before I submit it to formal submission to a journal. This journal is quite weird to unsubmit my MS. Any suggestion how to appeal?
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:22
26
26
Don't appeal. That just wastes your time. Just find a more reasonable journal.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:01
Don't appeal. That just wastes your time. Just find a more reasonable journal.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:01
4
4
"Normal" depends on the field. Please include that in the question (not just the tags) and, assuming that biology varies in its practices as much as computer science does, you'll probably need to be more specific than that.
– David Richerby
Apr 9 at 11:14
"Normal" depends on the field. Please include that in the question (not just the tags) and, assuming that biology varies in its practices as much as computer science does, you'll probably need to be more specific than that.
– David Richerby
Apr 9 at 11:14
5
5
@MaartenBuis "Appealing is a waste of time" is reasonable advice if the paper was 'unsubmitted' by an editor. However, if it was done automatically right after submission by the journal editorial staff (I mean, not the academics, the employees), then it would be a good idea to let the editors know that this happened, in case they aren't informed yet.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 9 at 11:39
@MaartenBuis "Appealing is a waste of time" is reasonable advice if the paper was 'unsubmitted' by an editor. However, if it was done automatically right after submission by the journal editorial staff (I mean, not the academics, the employees), then it would be a good idea to let the editors know that this happened, in case they aren't informed yet.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 9 at 11:39
8
8
"unsubmitted" is not the same as "rejected because previously published on Arxiv". Please quote exactly what the journal has said.
– EnergyNumbers
Apr 9 at 12:43
"unsubmitted" is not the same as "rejected because previously published on Arxiv". Please quote exactly what the journal has said.
– EnergyNumbers
Apr 9 at 12:43
|
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Most journals now allow and even encourage the use of preprint servers. Some, however, still prohibit it on the notion that it is competition with their own publication of the article, or even consider it self-plagiarism. This tends to be field-dependent as well: some fields (e.g., physics, mathematics) are very liberal in policy, while others tend to be more retrogressive (e.g., chemistry, certain portions of biology).
The only way to tell a particular journal's policy, however, is to check the specific journal (the SHERPA/RoMEO database is also highly helpful, since it's easier to find the policies there and they have been pre-interpreted by experts).
If you have, indeed, been prohibited from submission due to a journal's policy on preprints, my only advice is to find another that allows it.
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
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I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
8
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
1
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
11
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
1
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
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Most journals now allow and even encourage the use of preprint servers. Some, however, still prohibit it on the notion that it is competition with their own publication of the article, or even consider it self-plagiarism. This tends to be field-dependent as well: some fields (e.g., physics, mathematics) are very liberal in policy, while others tend to be more retrogressive (e.g., chemistry, certain portions of biology).
The only way to tell a particular journal's policy, however, is to check the specific journal (the SHERPA/RoMEO database is also highly helpful, since it's easier to find the policies there and they have been pre-interpreted by experts).
If you have, indeed, been prohibited from submission due to a journal's policy on preprints, my only advice is to find another that allows it.
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
3
I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
8
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
1
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
11
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
1
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
|
show 5 more comments
Most journals now allow and even encourage the use of preprint servers. Some, however, still prohibit it on the notion that it is competition with their own publication of the article, or even consider it self-plagiarism. This tends to be field-dependent as well: some fields (e.g., physics, mathematics) are very liberal in policy, while others tend to be more retrogressive (e.g., chemistry, certain portions of biology).
The only way to tell a particular journal's policy, however, is to check the specific journal (the SHERPA/RoMEO database is also highly helpful, since it's easier to find the policies there and they have been pre-interpreted by experts).
If you have, indeed, been prohibited from submission due to a journal's policy on preprints, my only advice is to find another that allows it.
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
3
I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
8
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
1
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
11
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
1
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
|
show 5 more comments
Most journals now allow and even encourage the use of preprint servers. Some, however, still prohibit it on the notion that it is competition with their own publication of the article, or even consider it self-plagiarism. This tends to be field-dependent as well: some fields (e.g., physics, mathematics) are very liberal in policy, while others tend to be more retrogressive (e.g., chemistry, certain portions of biology).
The only way to tell a particular journal's policy, however, is to check the specific journal (the SHERPA/RoMEO database is also highly helpful, since it's easier to find the policies there and they have been pre-interpreted by experts).
If you have, indeed, been prohibited from submission due to a journal's policy on preprints, my only advice is to find another that allows it.
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
Most journals now allow and even encourage the use of preprint servers. Some, however, still prohibit it on the notion that it is competition with their own publication of the article, or even consider it self-plagiarism. This tends to be field-dependent as well: some fields (e.g., physics, mathematics) are very liberal in policy, while others tend to be more retrogressive (e.g., chemistry, certain portions of biology).
The only way to tell a particular journal's policy, however, is to check the specific journal (the SHERPA/RoMEO database is also highly helpful, since it's easier to find the policies there and they have been pre-interpreted by experts).
If you have, indeed, been prohibited from submission due to a journal's policy on preprints, my only advice is to find another that allows it.
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
answered Apr 9 at 10:21
jakebealjakebeal
150k31536779
150k31536779
3
I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
8
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
1
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
11
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
1
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
|
show 5 more comments
3
I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
8
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
1
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
11
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
1
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
3
3
I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
I checked the Journal in SHERPA/RoMEO database and it's under RoMeo Yellow publishers. It says "author can archive pre-print (ie pre-refereeing)" so pre-prints are allowed? correct me if Im wrong about my interpretation
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:28
8
8
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
Apparently the database is wrong in this case. Mistakes happen, it is a large database after all, and it summarizes complex policies into 4 color codes. So consider that database a starting point when searching for journals, but don't rely on it.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:00
1
1
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
@xavier that would be the interpretation, yes - preprints allowed.
– Allure
Apr 9 at 11:41
11
11
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
@xavier Did you check if the journal had any preprint policy (or "policy on prior publication" or similar) on their website? Clearly that would override any listing in a third-party database.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:02
1
1
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
@xavier By third-party database I meant the SHERPA/RoMEO one, which the journal would be unlikely to mention in its policies. Anyway, I guess you could sit back and wait for their reply for now.
– Anyon
Apr 9 at 12:50
|
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@TommiBrander Biological science published under De Gruyter. Most of my papers in the field were all submitted to preprint servers before I submit it to formal submission to a journal. This journal is quite weird to unsubmit my MS. Any suggestion how to appeal?
– xavier
Apr 9 at 10:22
26
Don't appeal. That just wastes your time. Just find a more reasonable journal.
– Maarten Buis
Apr 9 at 11:01
4
"Normal" depends on the field. Please include that in the question (not just the tags) and, assuming that biology varies in its practices as much as computer science does, you'll probably need to be more specific than that.
– David Richerby
Apr 9 at 11:14
5
@MaartenBuis "Appealing is a waste of time" is reasonable advice if the paper was 'unsubmitted' by an editor. However, if it was done automatically right after submission by the journal editorial staff (I mean, not the academics, the employees), then it would be a good idea to let the editors know that this happened, in case they aren't informed yet.
– Federico Poloni
Apr 9 at 11:39
8
"unsubmitted" is not the same as "rejected because previously published on Arxiv". Please quote exactly what the journal has said.
– EnergyNumbers
Apr 9 at 12:43